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Hrolf The Ganger 27 Apr 17 4.42pm
Originally posted by serial thriller [Link] Presteigne, straddling the border between Wales and England, makes a virtue of its comparative remoteness. Cheap property, small streets and old-fashioned shop windows have attracted an array of people from outside the mainstream of life: gardeners, writers, a maker of clarinet reeds, and the like. It has always been like that. You can never tell who will pop up. There is an arts festival in August. There you go mate. Remote, small, old-fashioned. You could even take up the clarinet and play it at the arts festival. All very nice. Unfortunately what really matters is where people live and work and how they get there. I don't know how old you are but I promise you that there was once a time when you could drive somewhere without being in a traffic jam. I actually travel in the middle of the night now if I'm driving a long distance. It's the only time you can get anywhere on the motorways without wasting an hour or two in a jam.
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Originally posted by serial thriller

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Presteigne, straddling the border between Wales and England, makes a virtue of its comparative remoteness. Cheap property, small streets and old-fashioned shop windows have attracted an array of people from outside the mainstream of life: gardeners, writers, a maker of clarinet reeds, and the like.
It has always been like that. You can never tell who will pop up. There is an arts festival in August.

There you go mate. Remote, small, old-fashioned. You could even take up the clarinet and play it at the arts festival.

All very nice. Unfortunately what really matters is where people live and work and how they get there.
I don't know how old you are but I promise you that there was once a time when you could drive somewhere without being in a traffic jam. I actually travel in the middle of the night now if I'm driving a long distance. It's the only time you can get anywhere on the motorways without wasting an hour or two in a jam.

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Nest 27 Apr 17 5.02pm
guess who's back........ Attachment: PN.jpg (113.46Kb)
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27 Apr 17 5.02pm

guess who's back........

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Apr 17 5.23pm
Originally posted by Nest guess who's back........ Gandhi?
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Shizzlehurst 27 Apr 17 5.23pm

Originally posted by Nest

guess who's back........

Gandhi?

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Stirlingsays 27 Apr 17 5.28pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Gandhi? Someone with a policy other than, 'learn to live with it'. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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27 Apr 17 5.28pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Gandhi?

Someone with a policy other than, 'learn to live with it'.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Nest 27 Apr 17 5.48pm
another one of the fibbing fabler Attachment: N&F.jpg (66.15Kb)
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another one of the fibbing fabler

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Nest 27 Apr 17 5.51pm
I'm sorry if i have offended anyone with the last two phots i posted, they do make me laugh
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I'm sorry if i have offended anyone with the last two phots i posted, they do make me laugh

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 27 Apr 17 5.53pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Gandhi? No he's the guy who fed Gandhi all his lines. He's also David Gandhi's body double - all those topless photos of David are actually this guy with David's head photoshopped on. I think he also won the tour de France a couple of years ago and saved 3 families from burning buildings last week.
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Gandhi?

No he's the guy who fed Gandhi all his lines. He's also David Gandhi's body double - all those topless photos of David are actually this guy with David's head photoshopped on.

I think he also won the tour de France a couple of years ago and saved 3 families from burning buildings last week.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 27 Apr 17 5.57pm
Originally posted by Nest another one of the fibbing fabler Attachment: hqdefault.jpg (10.69Kb)
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Originally posted by Nest

another one of the fibbing fabler

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CambridgeEagle Sydenham 27 Apr 17 6.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays I didn't say you were. You have made points unrelated to mine seemingly in an effort to discredit the main point. I made a general point but never claimed all individual groups were worse off but you spent time making that point. You asked for evidence for the point I made, I provided it, the only argument is too the extent of the truth. You are the one who chose to debate the point. Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2017 3.38pm) You said "Labour's last time in office saw a sharp rise in income inequality, as well as a fall in the income of the poorest fifth of the population." I've merely pointed out what you said isn't true. You then said that you were buggered under Labour if you worked and didn't have kids. I pointed out that the report you yourself posted didn't support that claim as that group were less likely to be in absolute poverty than any other group. I chose to debate it as your claims were false. I don't see how me pointing out the facts in terms of inequality under the last Labour government were unrelated to your claims about inequality...
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Sydenham 27 Apr 17 6.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I didn't say you were.

You have made points unrelated to mine seemingly in an effort to discredit the main point. I made a general point but never claimed all individual groups were worse off but you spent time making that point.

You asked for evidence for the point I made, I provided it, the only argument is too the extent of the truth.

You are the one who chose to debate the point.

Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2017 3.38pm)

You said "Labour's last time in office saw a sharp rise in income inequality, as well as a fall in the income of the poorest fifth of the population."

I've merely pointed out what you said isn't true.

You then said that you were buggered under Labour if you worked and didn't have kids.

I pointed out that the report you yourself posted didn't support that claim as that group were less likely to be in absolute poverty than any other group.

I chose to debate it as your claims were false.

I don't see how me pointing out the facts in terms of inequality under the last Labour government were unrelated to your claims about inequality...

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steeleye20 Croydon 27 Apr 17 7.15pm
The burden of taxation should fall on those most able to bear it. Time to redress the balance in society and reverse failed austerity policies. The reason it should fall on those most able to bear it is simply because they have the money. The chancellor cannot get blood out of a stone so corporation tax and self-employed must be targeted. He will probably end up borrowing even more to avoid the tories taxing their own supporters that would mean astronomical levels of borrowing. The people just managing those on disability etc. cannot be bashed any more as they simply don't have money to pay for brexit trident et al. A sspecial tax to enable leave voters to pay for brexit would be particularly appropriate.
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Croydon 27 Apr 17 7.15pm

The burden of taxation should fall on those most able to bear it.

Time to redress the balance in society and reverse failed austerity policies.

The reason it should fall on those most able to bear it is simply because they have the money.

The chancellor cannot get blood out of a stone so corporation tax and self-employed must be targeted.

He will probably end up borrowing even more to avoid the tories taxing their own supporters that would mean astronomical levels of borrowing.

The people just managing those on disability etc. cannot be bashed any more as they simply don't have money to pay for brexit trident et al.

A sspecial tax to enable leave voters to pay for brexit would be particularly appropriate.

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Nest 27 Apr 17 7.24pm
Merkel's Brexit stance shows need for Tory poll win - May "So we need the strongest possible hand, the strongest possible mandate and the strongest possible leadership as we go into those talks." [Link] Stephen Bush - New Statesman There's just one small problem, really: May's message isn't true. EU leaders feel the same way about other people's elections as most people do about other people's pets or children: they'll try to accommodate them, sure. But ultimately, they take a distant back seat to their own. There is not a Brexit dividend to be unlocked simply through getting a bigger Conservative majority. Whether May's majority is one, ten or 100, she will face the same trade-offs and the same partners with the same incentives. [Link]
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Merkel's Brexit stance shows need for Tory poll win - May
"So we need the strongest possible hand, the strongest possible mandate and the strongest possible leadership as we go into those talks."
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Stephen Bush - New Statesman
There's just one small problem, really: May's message isn't true. EU leaders feel the same way about other people's elections as most people do about other people's pets or children: they'll try to accommodate them, sure. But ultimately, they take a distant back seat to their own. There is not a Brexit dividend to be unlocked simply through getting a bigger Conservative majority. Whether May's majority is one, ten or 100, she will face the same trade-offs and the same partners with the same incentives.
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susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 27 Apr 17 7.44pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger Odd then that the population was leveling out in the 70's and 80's before the rise of mass migration. Hit the nail on the head and that's why we are so short of housing so Maggie cannot be blamed for the acute shortages today really! Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.
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PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 27 Apr 17 7.44pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Odd then that the population was leveling out in the 70's and 80's before the rise of mass migration.

Hit the nail on the head and that's why we are so short of housing so Maggie cannot be blamed for the acute shortages today really!

Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

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