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 big stu  milton keynes 22 Dec 15 9.07am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 sometimes you just have to sit back and forget all the images in your head and just belive that some players have natural ability and CA is 1 of these players...would prefere REMY myself
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| Andy_G Wimbledon 22 Dec 15 9.29am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Why has no one gone for Austin? Can't just be the price, some team would have paid it, there must be another reason and that's why I'm not sure he's the right decision. On a free, no brainer, but 8-10m too high for me.
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| sydtheeagle England 22 Dec 15 10.48am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Andy_G at 22 Dec 2015 9.29am
Why has no one gone for Austin? Can't just be the price, some team would have paid it, there must be another reason and that's why I'm not sure he's the right decision. On a free, no brainer, but 8-10m too high for me. If you believe that Austin is a genuine, 15 goals a season scorer in the Premier League then 8-10 million is chump change in today's market. There are a lot of reasons why I prefer other players to Austin but that price is not one of them.
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| Nobbybm Dartford 22 Dec 15 11.00am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 A while back a Hoops fan told me his wages were obscene & that his agent wanted a huge fee for both him & CA when it came to a transfer. If that's true, even in part, then I'd have thought his agent would prefer to wait until his contract was up to boost the fees etc
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| laddo london 22 Dec 15 11.14am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 We need a striker. Wickham will come good but in terms of depth we need two target men competing for that place up top. Chamakh can play there but with punch slightly erratic form wise id imagine pards would rather he played behind a front man. Gayle is ok but scores goals alongside a target man. He isn't the answer if wickham gets injured (clutching his hamstring Saturday didn't look good). We rumoured to be after some imports from abroad which is fine but they can be hit and miss. With Austin you can tell immediately he'd fit into our system. Physically he can play that target man role up front and goal scoring wise he proved himself last year in a struggling side. 15m in August was too much. Now his fee will come down considerably. He wants to stay down south and quite frankly, sitting 6th in the league makes us considerably more attractive than when he was pondering a move to selhurst in August. Personally, if the money is right I think we'd be mad not to go on for Austin one more time.
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| sydtheeagle England 22 Dec 15 11.44am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote laddo at 22 Dec 2015 11.14am
We need a striker. Wickham will come good but in terms of depth we need two target men competing for that place up top. Chamakh can play there but with punch slightly erratic form wise id imagine pards would rather he played behind a front man. Gayle is ok but scores goals alongside a target man. He isn't the answer if wickham gets injured (clutching his hamstring Saturday didn't look good). We rumoured to be after some imports from abroad which is fine but they can be hit and miss. With Austin you can tell immediately he'd fit into our system. Physically he can play that target man role up front and goal scoring wise he proved himself last year in a struggling side. 15m in August was too much. Now his fee will come down considerably. He wants to stay down south and quite frankly, sitting 6th in the league makes us considerably more attractive than when he was pondering a move to selhurst in August. Personally, if the money is right I think we'd be mad not to go on for Austin one more time.
1. Totally agree that (if fit) a front three of Austin, Wickham, and Chamakh would provide quality competition for places and diverse options up front as none of the three are identical players. BTW, I think Wickham is already coming good at a rapid pace. 2. Generally, I would prefer a "local" striker (or a striker with local knowledge) to an import. Zaza doesn't really send me into raptures, for instance. 3. Austin, because of the nature of his game, would really fit into any side. He'd be well suited to us, frankly. 4. You are 100% right about price. And I suspect in his eyes, now we're in 6th place, we've proved our worth to him making us far more attractive than we were in August. This is one reason I think the deal might happen. I still have my reservations about Austin (as much based on personality and agent issues as football) but right now, I could be persuaded that at 8m or so, he'd be a good move. Especially if we could offload Gayle or Campbell to QPR into the bargain.
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 22 Dec 15 12.00pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 22 Dec 2015 8.24am
Quote The Sash at 22 Dec 2015 7.56am
1. There is no way we will pay top dollar for Austin based on a) He is near the end of his contract b) has question marks over his potential for injury c) Has the risk of being a 'one season wonder' at the top level. 2. Austin isn't as sought after as QPR, he or the media would have you believe - Have it from good authority that last year there was actually very little 'concrete' interest in Austin bar some tentative enquiries 3. Does Austin actually fit our transfer profile and the sort of player we are looking to bring in - I'd suggest not. I think a Remy or someone out of left field from abroad is far more likely than Austin to be honest
I wasn't keen at the start of the season but I have changed my mind for two reasons. i) We are doing considerably better than I envisaged ii) £8 Million is not much of a gamble. I am not sure that the "injury prone" label he has picked up is particularly fair either
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| passifid Brighton 22 Dec 15 12.07pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Booted Eagle at 22 Dec 2015 12.00pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 22 Dec 2015 8.24am
Quote The Sash at 22 Dec 2015 7.56am
1. There is no way we will pay top dollar for Austin based on a) He is near the end of his contract b) has question marks over his potential for injury c) Has the risk of being a 'one season wonder' at the top level. 2. Austin isn't as sought after as QPR, he or the media would have you believe - Have it from good authority that last year there was actually very little 'concrete' interest in Austin bar some tentative enquiries 3. Does Austin actually fit our transfer profile and the sort of player we are looking to bring in - I'd suggest not. I think a Remy or someone out of left field from abroad is far more likely than Austin to be honest
I wasn't keen at the start of the season but I have changed my mind for two reasons. i) We are doing considerably better than I envisaged ii) £8 Million is not much of a gamble. I am not sure that the "injury prone" label he has picked up is particularly fair either
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| Booted Eagle Bristol 22 Dec 15 12.12pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote passifid at 22 Dec 2015 12.07pm
Quote Booted Eagle at 22 Dec 2015 12.00pm
Quote Y Ddraig Goch at 22 Dec 2015 8.24am
Quote The Sash at 22 Dec 2015 7.56am
1. There is no way we will pay top dollar for Austin based on a) He is near the end of his contract b) has question marks over his potential for injury c) Has the risk of being a 'one season wonder' at the top level. 2. Austin isn't as sought after as QPR, he or the media would have you believe - Have it from good authority that last year there was actually very little 'concrete' interest in Austin bar some tentative enquiries 3. Does Austin actually fit our transfer profile and the sort of player we are looking to bring in - I'd suggest not. I think a Remy or someone out of left field from abroad is far more likely than Austin to be honest
I wasn't keen at the start of the season but I have changed my mind for two reasons. i) We are doing considerably better than I envisaged ii) £8 Million is not much of a gamble. I am not sure that the "injury prone" label he has picked up is particularly fair either
The other side of the coin is that he is a proven goalscorer in the PL and there are plenty of desperate teams in the lower reaches willing to fling the cash.
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| sydtheeagle England 22 Dec 15 12.13pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote passifid at 22 Dec 2015 12.07pm
The reason is he can easily leave at the end of the season for free which with every month is a bigger risk and as such the club will probably take less why 8 I don't know though The maths is pretty simple. Sell him in January for 6-8 million quid. Keep him until May and lose him for 0 quid. If QPR really believe they are odds on for promotion then he is arguably worth keeping because minus 8 million quid is small change compared to the riches they would get if they went up. If they are honest and believe promotion this year is unlikely, they are better off selling him while they can still bring some money in. If they think they can get a replacement into the bargain (Gayle, Campbell) even more so. The only bar to a sale in January is Austin himself. If he holds out until May when he becomes a free agent, he will get a large chunk of the 8 million quid that would have been a transfer fee as a signing-on fee from his new club. That's the way it works. So it boils down to does Austin want money (in which case he refuses to move in January) or success (in which case he goes.) I guess the answer will tell us something about him.
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| Leicestershireeagle South Leicestershire 22 Dec 15 2.04pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Am I mad in not wanting him? You can see when Wickham plays, we look far better in the final third, purely down to how he harasses and holds up the ball. Austin can't do that, so I'd be inclined to look for a different type of striker (more akin to Wickham, Murray etc).
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black eagle.  south croydon. 22 Dec 15 2.12pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Leicestershireeagle at 22 Dec 2015 2.04pm
Am I mad in not wanting him? You can see when Wickham plays, we look far better in the final third, purely down to how he harasses and holds up the ball. Austin can't do that, so I'd be inclined to look for a different type of striker (more akin to Wickham, Murray etc). You forget one thing,Austin puts the ball in the net on a regular basis.
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