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elgrande bedford 23 Oct 17 10.14pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 Hydrogen fuel cells are the way forward according to the Toyota UK Chairman, as electric cars have huge carbon footprint needing power stations galore. I saw a Dutch solar powered car at the weekend a prototype so the boundaries are being pushed all the time. Who knows in 2040 electric cars may well be obsolete. How the earth was created I don't know but everything was provided, the sun the wind, foolish mankind just goes on its destructive path. My god i need to sit down,i agee with stteleye. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 23 Oct 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Hydrogen fuel cells are the way forward according to the Toyota UK Chairman, as electric cars have huge carbon footprint needing power stations galore.

I saw a Dutch solar powered car at the weekend a prototype so the boundaries are being pushed all the time.

Who knows in 2040 electric cars may well be obsolete.

How the earth was created I don't know but everything was provided, the sun the wind, foolish mankind just goes on its destructive path.

My god i need to sit down,i agee with stteleye.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Stirlingsays 23 Oct 17 10.21pm
Originally posted by elgrande My god i need to sit down,i agee with stteleye. Nobody's perfect. Electric cars are going to take over. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Oct 17 10.21pm

Originally posted by elgrande

My god i need to sit down,i agee with stteleye.

Nobody's perfect.

Electric cars are going to take over.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm)

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elgrande bedford 23 Oct 17 10.31pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Nobody's perfect. Electric cars are going to take over. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm) Oh i think tbey will stirling,but as he said tbey have a massive footprint,batteries wear out in tbe end. Disposal is going to be a key note about how far they take over. I think other ways of powering cars/trucks will come to the forefront soon. Thats if the oil industry lets them,i have often wondered how many usable ideas have been quashed or bought out by the said industry. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 23 Oct 17 10.31pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nobody's perfect.

Electric cars are going to take over.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm)

Oh i think tbey will stirling,but as he said tbey have a massive footprint,batteries wear out in tbe end.
Disposal is going to be a key note about how far they take over.
I think other ways of powering cars/trucks will come to the forefront soon.
Thats if the oil industry lets them,i have often wondered how many usable ideas have been quashed or bought out by the said industry.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 23 Oct 17 10.58pm
Originally posted by elgrande Oh i think tbey will stirling,but as he said tbey have a massive footprint,batteries wear out in tbe end. Disposal is going to be a key note about how far they take over. I think other ways of powering cars/trucks will come to the forefront soon. Thats if the oil industry lets them,i have often wondered how many usable ideas have been quashed or bought out by the said industry. Why do you think there are concerted campaigns against Corbyn, Murdoch's got his fingers in oil. Corbyn wants to break the status quo.
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Shizzlehurst 23 Oct 17 10.58pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Why do you think there are concerted campaigns against Corbyn, Murdoch's got his fingers in oil. Corbyn wants to break the status quo.

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elgrande bedford 23 Oct 17 11.07pm
Thats me out. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 23 Oct 17 11.07pm

Thats me out.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Lyons550 Shirley 24 Oct 17 9.24am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Nobody's perfect. Electric cars are going to take over. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm) They will in the short term...and it'll be necessary to ween ourselves off of fossil fuels...but as Steeleye has intimated work on Hydrogen cells is already underway and proving to be effective step up from normal batteries.. The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 24 Oct 17 9.24am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Nobody's perfect.

Electric cars are going to take over.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Oct 2017 10.21pm)

They will in the short term...and it'll be necessary to ween ourselves off of fossil fuels...but as Steeleye has intimated work on Hydrogen cells is already underway and proving to be effective step up from normal batteries..

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Lyons550 Shirley 24 Oct 17 9.28am
Originally posted by elgrande Oh i think tbey will stirling,but as he said tbey have a massive footprint,batteries wear out in tbe end. Disposal is going to be a key note about how far they take over. I think other ways of powering cars/trucks will come to the forefront soon. Thats if the oil industry lets them,i have often wondered how many usable ideas have been quashed or bought out by the said industry. Hundreds I'll have to find it but I watched a documentary the other month saying that plenty of inventors have developed far more efficient and environmentally friendly systems/power plants (as far back as the '30s) only to their patents seized by the US government for being a threat to national security (in otherwords the oil industry)..i'm sure you could find something on youtube... [Link] Clearly anything on youtube needs to be taken on face value but.... Edited by Lyons550 (24 Oct 2017 9.29am) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 24 Oct 17 9.28am

Originally posted by elgrande

Hundreds I'll have to find it but I watched a documentary the other month saying that plenty of inventors have developed far more efficient and environmentally friendly systems/power plants (as far back as the '30s) only to their patents seized by the US government for being a threat to national security (in otherwords the oil industry)..i'm sure you could find something on youtube... [Link]

Clearly anything on youtube needs to be taken on face value but....

Edited by Lyons550 (24 Oct 2017 9.29am)

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Only 10 a year!! 24 Oct 17 11.04am
Originally posted by nickgusset Why do you think there are concerted campaigns against Corbyn, Murdoch's got his fingers in oil. Corbyn wants to break the status quo. Why do you feel the need? Is it some sort of compulsive disorder?
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Originally posted by nickgusset

Why do you think there are concerted campaigns against Corbyn, Murdoch's got his fingers in oil. Corbyn wants to break the status quo.

Why do you feel the need? Is it some sort of compulsive disorder?

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Lyons550 Shirley 24 Oct 17 11.25am
Are cracks starting to appear within the 27 of the EU? Seems an odd thing for Tusk to come out with this rhetoric? [Link] It certainly appears that both Tusk and Junker seem to be obsessed with driving the hardest exits at the expense of a cordial and mutually beneficial one...but I guess that's the point...anything other than us leaving with our tail between our legs weakens the EU's foundations (?) The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 24 Oct 17 11.25am

Are cracks starting to appear within the 27 of the EU?

Seems an odd thing for Tusk to come out with this rhetoric?

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It certainly appears that both Tusk and Junker seem to be obsessed with driving the hardest exits at the expense of a cordial and mutually beneficial one...but I guess that's the point...anything other than us leaving with our tail between our legs weakens the EU's foundations (?)

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Lyons550 Shirley 24 Oct 17 11.29am
Ouch! But no more than most of us on here have been saying.... "And Hans-Olaf Henkel, a German MEP from the Conservatives and Reformists Group in the European Parliament, urged Mr Tusk and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker to demonstrate more of the "British values of fairness". "The EU insists on a financial offer by the British government before an agreement on trade. I wonder, Herr Juncker, whether you would agree a price on something you don't know or what you buy for," he said." The Voice of Reason In An Otherwise Mediocre World
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Shirley 24 Oct 17 11.29am

Ouch! But no more than most of us on here have been saying....

"And Hans-Olaf Henkel, a German MEP from the Conservatives and Reformists Group in the European Parliament, urged Mr Tusk and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker to demonstrate more of the "British values of fairness".
"The EU insists on a financial offer by the British government before an agreement on trade. I wonder, Herr Juncker, whether you would agree a price on something you don't know or what you buy for," he said."

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jamiemartin721 Reading 24 Oct 17 11.33am
Originally posted by elgrande Do you use shops,supermarkets,have parcels delivered. I deliver in my lorry into london on a Friday (before that 30 cab driver). Things need to be delivered people need to go from a to b. In terms of reducing emissions, that's whats required - Rather than 30 people going out to pick up x, y and z in their cars, one person delivering it. Similar to public transport - London has magnificent public transport links. Seriously, I often wonder why people in London actually drive or own cars. Better 40 people on a bus, than what you tend to get outside out side major town and city areas, which is 40 people individually driving into an town or city, because the bus goes once an hour from the otherside of town and turns up only 3 in 4 times. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 24 Oct 17 11.33am

Originally posted by elgrande

Do you use shops,supermarkets,have parcels delivered.
I deliver in my lorry into london on a Friday (before that 30 cab driver).
Things need to be delivered people need to go from a to b.

In terms of reducing emissions, that's whats required - Rather than 30 people going out to pick up x, y and z in their cars, one person delivering it.

Similar to public transport - London has magnificent public transport links. Seriously, I often wonder why people in London actually drive or own cars. Better 40 people on a bus, than what you tend to get outside out side major town and city areas, which is 40 people individually driving into an town or city, because the bus goes once an hour from the otherside of town and turns up only 3 in 4 times.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Oct 17 11.37am
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 In terms of reducing emissions, that's whats required - Rather than 30 people going out to pick up x, y and z in their cars, one person delivering it. Similar to public transport - London has magnificent public transport links. Seriously, I often wonder why people in London actually drive or own cars. Better 40 people on a bus, than what you tend to get outside out side major town and city areas, which is 40 people individually driving into an town or city, because the bus goes once an hour from the otherside of town and turns up only 3 in 4 times. Empty the roads and people will drive their cars. COYP
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Caterham 24 Oct 17 11.37am

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

In terms of reducing emissions, that's whats required - Rather than 30 people going out to pick up x, y and z in their cars, one person delivering it.

Empty the roads and people will drive their cars.

COYP

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