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  Hrolf The Ganger  17 Nov 23 11.33am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
If you have fallen out of love with where you live, move. Or get out more. There’s plenty of lovely places out there. Stop moaning and do something to make your own lot better. You aren’t going to change the world. What a pointless statement. My personal circumstances have no bearing on the decline of our society caused by mass immigration. It seems like no one is concerned about the plight of one particular minority. White Europeans.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Nov 23 12.34pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a pointless statement. My personal circumstances have no bearing on the decline of our society caused by mass immigration. It seems like no one is concerned about the plight of one particular minority. White Europeans. It's because his type are against them, even denies they exist, while he called his own, 'unique'. Hypocritically lives in one of its finest locations in England....while systematically supporting policies which he knows will ultimately destroy what he claims to love. Pulls the ladder up and leaves crap on the ground. Doesn't plant trees for the next generation but salts the ground....ultimate boomer. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Nov 2023 12.37pm)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 3.26pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
I’m not comparing them; I’m stating that both the left (Guardian), the right (GB News) and the centre (BBC), reported these events involving the Refugees Welcome gatherings. My disagreement with you was over your view that nobody agrees with illegal immigration; the protests show that you are incorrect. Protesting the way people are treated is not the same as approving of the way they arrive. A refugee is not an illegal immigrant.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Nov 23 3.31pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Protesting the way people are treated is not the same as approving of the way they arrive. A refugee is not an illegal immigrant. But illegal immigrants are arriving here claiming to be refugees when in fact they are just opportunists. The whole stop the boats fiasco is a good distraction from the 600k people who arrived here legally in the last year. How much longer can this insanity continue?
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| Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 17 Nov 23 3.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Protesting the way people are treated is not the same as approving of the way they arrive. A refugee is not an illegal immigrant. There is nothing in the protests that differentiates between a genuine refugee and an illegal immigrant; all are welcome. A refugee is an illegal immigrant as soon as he/she attempts a journey to UK waters without documentation or the intention of providing any. Once on UK soil and they claim asylum, then they are potentially a refugee.
hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 4.03pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
What a pointless statement. My personal circumstances have no bearing on the decline of our society caused by mass immigration. It seems like no one is concerned about the plight of one particular minority. White Europeans. When the only thing we have any hope of controlling is our personal destiny it’s far from pointless. Moaning about things you cannot change is what is pointless. You change what you can change. I did. I retired to Cornwall because I like peace, coast and countryside. I don’t like cities. It has nothing to do with where the people who live here, or in the cities, were born. So long as they are respectful, law abiding and peaceful it’s all ok. If they aren’t we work until they are. Individually though you can do whatever you wish. So as Tebbit once advised “get on your bike”. Your obsession with categorising people by the colour of their skin really needs no further comment from me. It’s equally pointless.
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Teddy Eagle  17 Nov 23 4.09pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
But illegal immigrants are arriving here claiming to be refugees when in fact they are just opportunists. The whole stop the boats fiasco is a good distraction from the 600k people who arrived here legally in the last year. How much longer can this insanity continue? 600,000 is a huge figure, only London and Birmingham have a higher population than that. No wonder health and education services are under pressure.
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cryrst  The garden of England 17 Nov 23 4.53pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
On the basis that you cannot change history you are right. So I don’t. What I do is point out the consequences of Brexit and argue to reverse them via renegotiations and treaties. This is not moaning. It’s positive action. Positive for whom? You and your brainwashed, brow beaten family.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 11.03pm |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Positive for whom? You and your brainwashed, brow beaten family. I would say nothing because I would be speechless. They are both even more determined than I am to see our membership of the EU restored and have nothing but total disdain for the way Brexit was engineered.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 11.20pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
600,000 is a huge figure, only London and Birmingham have a higher population than that. No wonder health and education services are under pressure. That’s actually the net migration figure, after those leaving have been deducted. It’s a spike largely caused by the pandemic, the after effects of Brexit and the outflow of EU citizens who are now being replaced from outside of Europe. Which is an ironic outcome for the ardent Brexiteers. With our skills shortages still there it’s going to be there for a while but not at this level. Things will change again. If we don’t need the people then they won’t get recruited or get visas. AI and getting the feckless back into work is the route to go.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Nov 23 11.34pm |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
There is nothing in the protests that differentiates between a genuine refugee and an illegal immigrant; all are welcome. A refugee is an illegal immigrant as soon as he/she attempts a journey to UK waters without documentation or the intention of providing any. Once on UK soil and they claim asylum, then they are potentially a refugee. The signs are necessarily simple. They are aimed at a TV audience who only get a moment to read them as a counter to the anti-immigration protests. That doesn’t mean the protesters don’t understand the differences. People need to assessed to determine if their claim for refugee status is genuine. It takes far too long, partly because of a lack of resources and partly because we bend over backwards to be fair. Both can be modernised and improved to suit current circumstances. So long as it has been clearly established that any flights take those who fail back to either their country of origin or a safe country then establishing such a scheme is welcomed as a deterrent. That’s the whole point. Stopping the trafficking at source. Capturing and prosecuting the traffickers must also be done on an international level.
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Forest Hillbilly  in a hidey-hole 18 Nov 23 12.41am |
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Back to the murder and starvation of an entire population. When is there going to be a ceasefire ? When Israel runs out of bombs and bullets ? When genocide has been achieved. Even the WHO saya aid is being deliberately denied. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (18 Nov 2023 3.42am)
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