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 kenbarr  Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 29 Dec 17 5.41pm |
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To take this a step further, Trump went on to say that there were many fine people in the White Power movement. He has identified with people like David Duke (who he once claimed he never heard of) and Richard Spencer. The White Supremacist movement in the US considers Trump "their President" and he does nothing to discourage them.
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| Ray in Houston Houston 29 Dec 17 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Sorry, fella - you'll have to point me in the right direction to find where Trump has a right go at, and fully denounces the white power, Hitler-loving, jew and black-hating, racially-superior fixated, cancerous neo-nazis that invaded and upset the local folk in Charlottesville. I know he said both sides were to blame but given their way of thinking and actions that night and day, including murder, he must have had something seperate to say about the neo-nazis, surely? Ta in advance. Trump actually said that some of the neo-Nazis* in Charlottesville are "very good people". Maybe in the same way that some Mexicans are good people and not criminals, drug dealers and rapists. * I'm not sure if they're still "neo-Nazis" if they're marching under and wearing the Swastika while chanting Nazi slogans. I think that makes them actual Nazis. Edited by Ray in Houston (29 Dec 2017 5.45pm)
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| Sheks Crows Eye Virginia 29 Dec 17 5.49pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
This is considered "communists' fault". Around the same time, countless millions were dying in US due to famine, malnutrition, lack of access to healthcare, shelter, security because of abject poverty brought by Great Depression, and the US government was refusing doing anything about it based on ideological grounds of 'Not intervening in the market'. People were dying on the road to California, in roadside camps, hobo camps, in their houses due to sickness brought by malnutrition, diseases, entire nation was begging, 'Brother can you spare a dime', but the government was ideologically refusing to do anything about it, even as a minority of people made incredible fortunes. This is not considered capitalism's fault. Since you're so adept at google why don't you plug "Great Leap Forward" into the search bar next time Mr. "Teacher". Perhaps follow that up with guidance on how to emigrate to China (might not be your thing though since they don't act so communist anymore). You're faith in Big Government is misguided.
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jamiemartin721  Reading 29 Dec 17 5.52pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Trump actually said that some of the neo-Nazis* in Charlottesville are "very good people". Maybe in the same way that some Mexicans are good people and not criminals, drug dealers and rapists. * I'm not sure if they're still "neo-Nazis" if they're marching under and wearing the Swastika while chanting Nazi slogans. I think that makes them actual Nazis. Edited by Ray in Houston (29 Dec 2017 5.45pm) An interesting point, however the neo-Nazi movement is far less 'intellectualised' than the National Socialist Movement of Germany ever was. It certainly has a further right wing lean towards fascism and corporate state mentality, than the ideals of national socialism ever did. They're much more racist than 'socialist' as well (which is a bit difficult to imagine)
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 17 5.53pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Trump actually said that some of the neo-Nazis* in Charlottesville are "very good people". Maybe in the same way that some Mexicans are good people and not criminals, drug dealers and rapists. * I'm not sure if they're still "neo-Nazis" if they're marching under and wearing the Swastika while chanting Nazi slogans. I think that makes them actual Nazis. Edited by Ray in Houston (29 Dec 2017 5.45pm) Well there is an actual Nazi party in America.....has a membership of about ten thousand. Similar to the size of the KKK. The meaning of the word 'Nazi' has been so abused by the left in modern times as to refer...pretty much to any 'people we don't like'....so pretensions to what is an actual Nazi is by one of their commentators is always something amusing to read. I'd agree with Jamie on this one. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2017 6.00pm)
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| Sheks Crows Eye Virginia 29 Dec 17 5.57pm |
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When you get down to principles, there is very little difference between Communists and Nazis.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 17 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Sheks Crows Eye
When you get down to principles, there is very little difference between Communists and Nazis. I read that Hitler thought that Marxists were the easiest to flip....because essentially at the core they wanted the world to burn. But then again, they were also those that fought him the most. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2017 5.59pm)
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| Sheks Crows Eye Virginia 29 Dec 17 6.04pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
I read that Hitler thought that Marxists were the easiest to flip....because essentially at the core they wanted the world to burn. But then again, they were also those that fought him the most. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2017 5.59pm) Yep, "they were primed to flip" [Sargon?
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]. There's a section of this thought in Mein Kampf about how statesman could court and co-opt Marxists. Marxist/Communist states worldwide have turned into totalitarian states - DPRK, Russia, China etc.| kenbarr Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 29 Dec 17 6.07pm |
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My cousin was Jewish and a youth leader in the German Communist Party in Nuremberg. He was one of the first murdered at Dachau. The1939 non-aggression pact between Germany & the USSR was really one of convenience for both. Hitler needed no opposition when he invaded Poland and Stalin had destroyed his Army in the purges. Plus, Hitler gave him a tasty slice of Poland. The irony of all this is Trump wants nothing more than a very cozy relationship with Putin wthi is the most repressive Russian leader since the fall of communism there He has gone as far as denouncing Garry Kasparov, the former chess champion and one of the leaders of the anti-Putin group..
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 17 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by Sheks Crows Eye
Yep, "they were primed to flip" [Sargon?
Good to acknowledge a fellow Sargonite. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Dec 2017 6.12pm)
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| Sheks Crows Eye Virginia 29 Dec 17 6.16pm |
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Originally posted by kenbarr
My cousin was Jewish and a youth leader in the German Communist Party in Nuremberg. He was one of the first murdered at Dachau. The1939 non-aggression pact between Germany & the USSR was really one of convenience for both. Hitler needed no opposition when he invaded Poland and Stalin had destroyed his Army in the purges. Plus, Hitler gave him a tasty slice of Poland. The irony of all this is Trump wants nothing more than a very cozy relationship with Putin wthi is the most repressive Russian leader since the fall of communism there He has gone as far as denouncing Garry Kasparov, the former chess champion and one of the leaders of the anti-Putin group.. I sympathize with you and your family. Its harsh a world, i'll never forget the feeling of seeing blood on the pavement in Sadr City hours after a public beheading in 2006. However, I don't see how Trump is all that cozy with Russia, for the cameras, yeah maybe? But how else can one act with another nuclear power with the cyber infrasture to cripple your grid? Trump has signed legislation enabling significant sanctions against the Russian federation [Link] and has not waivered on the Magnitsky Act which is the single greatest way to punish Putin and the oligarchs behind him.
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| Stirlingsays 29 Dec 17 6.18pm |
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Originally posted by kenbarr
The irony of all this is Trump wants nothing more than a very cozy relationship with Putin wthi is the most repressive Russian leader since the fall of communism there He has gone as far as denouncing Garry Kasparov, the former chess champion and one of the leaders of the anti-Putin group.. While I'm quite a big fan of Kasparov politically in Russia....I wouldn't at all be surprised that the real reason Trump has had a go at Kasparov...is the same reason he does for most....it's because Kasparov has long been having a go at him.
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