I too find it disgusting that the major parties are now talking about 'lessons learned' and, even more patronising, 'angry voters'.

It annoys me that this is an admission that the parties have taken their eyes off of the most important part of heir job, voter satisfaction, and are doing as they please.

All of the sycophants coming out of the woodwork and say this is a 'wake up call' has simply reinforced my view that unless there is an honest debate about the direction we wish as a country to engage with, then we are f***ed.

Let's hope he careerists in Westminister take heed and engage.

"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02

You don't get the point Tux?

The Tories before Blair (97) hadn't let in three million extra people...Quite simple really.....So while Thatcher doing 'right to buy' without replacing housing stock was wrong...It pales into insignificance to what your ideological buddies did......Did they build a near million homes to cope and all the infrastructure needed for these people.... Did they hell....They turned a blind eye and called anyone moaning about it a bigot and/or a racist.

As for the current government.....With what exactly are they going to build homes with? They came in with no money and a crippling generational sized debt..... even with an improving economy the fact is we are still borrowing dosh to get by each year.....It's only because this government is getting things in order than we can still borrow at low rates.....Do you think Labour would be trusted by the markets...Not a hope.

Labour had the money years in the ninties, which was built upon debt and property prices and they did what they always do....Feck it up.

Yeah, the Tories would have operated the same economy but I very much doubt they would have borrowed in surplus years.....Na, Labour and the economy are trash.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

I don't vote bud so the idea of me having 'ideological buddies' is just illogical.
Who said it's for the Govt to spend on new homes? Not me. Read what is written not what you think you see.
The Govt should let those that can build new homes build them. That's the first part of the Govts job, the second being to 'cap rents'. The second point will save the Govt, ie you and me, a fortune in 'housing benefit' being paid which ultimately goes into the pockets of private landlords.
We're becoming feudal again, medieval times of tenants and landlords. That's hardly progress..................especially as the landlords in the medieval times were not backed by the authorities.

It 'aint rocket science.

Not another one who don't vote yet talks politics on a public forum.....Why bother having a voice here when where it matters you decide to have no voice?....Never mind, it's your democratic right to be illogical.

And speaking of logic?.....You can't 'get' people to build houses with the knowledge that what they charge for them will be controlled.....It don't work like that mate...Putin rules Russia not the UK...There has to be an incentive for companies to build modern houses.

Also, the government requires social housing....Which ever method the government chooses to build them social housing is expensive and costs the state anyway you look at it.

If I were you.....I wouldn't take up rocket science.

Edited by Stirlingsays (25 May 2014 1.07am)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Well if they weren't, 'the left' wouldn't.

Harriet Harman on Andrew Carr this morning. Specifically asked about immigration. She said she was going to give 2 reasons. They were, "Listening and solutions."

Then came 3mins of wriggling out of the question, trying to create a different question, waffling on about listening to people and then giving examples of wishy washy policies such as preventing agencies only hiring foreign labour. Andrew Carr asked her again and again and made a point that there is nothing being done or going to be done.

It would've been better for Labour if she didn't turn up. Farage could go to town with that appearance. Not surprising as New Labour have increased their electorate with those staying in Britain since 1997. Who cares about those staying for a few years in overcrowded housing and areas to undercut British workers and with less of a care about the condition of the local area.

COYP