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 steeleye20  Croydon 20 Oct 17 11.18am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Wow....40 billion is just too high. May is useless.....Just a typical 'wet' with no balls. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2017 11.09am) Give nothing and stay in the EU.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 17 11.31am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Then I wouldn't negotiate with you. A closed fist meets a closed fist. If the Tories cave in.....well, they will lose their own base.....The left will by definition never vote for them anyway. As these forums show...plenty of them are anti British pro EU types anyway. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2017 11.03am) Who is anti British?
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 Hrolf The Ganger 20 Oct 17 11.37am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Give nothing and stay in the EU. We are getting out at a good time. THe EU is going to s***. It was the right decision and you will see that in the coming years. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Oct 2017 11.39am)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 20 Oct 17 11.43am |
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Oct 17 11.52am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Well the middle ground certainly isn't 20bn either, which is the UK offer that they 'holding firm on' - If I was in the EU's position, I wouldn't negotiate anything until a price was agreed.
By being stubborn all that'll happen is there'll be stalemate and the fingers would be pointed those not willing to manouvre...in your case the EU. Having said that...and from the mouth of Merkle herself things arent as bad as being portrayed by our twisted press...so i dont for one minute think there wont be an agreement made that both sides are ultimately comfortable with.
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Oct 17 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Wow....40 billion is just too high. May is useless.....Just a typical 'wet' with no balls. Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Oct 2017 11.09am) I'm not so sure it is tbh..as i said elsewhere...if we're expected to pay for projects that havent yet started then personally i'd expect to have the benefits of any [outputs] they produce as well (yet another negotiating point i'd assume)....
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Oct 17 11.57am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We are getting out at a good time. THe EU is going to s***. It was the right decision and you will see that in the coming years. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Oct 2017 11.39am)
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 17 11.59am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
We are getting out at a good time. THe EU is going to s***. It was the right decision and you will see that in the coming years. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (20 Oct 2017 11.39am) It's not up to Merkel if the UK stays in the EU as the UK has the veto. Do you want your future decided by her a German?
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| Lyons550 Shirley 20 Oct 17 12.07pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
It's not up to Merkel if the UK stays in the EU as the UK has the veto. Do you want your future decided by her a German? I think the point he was making is that she will do her best to make the separation as amicable as possible as moving forward Germany (and others) will still need / want to do business with us...
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| steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 17 12.16pm |
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Remaining is actually a strong position. Leave is bankruptcy and humiliation. She is paying up.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Oct 17 12.27pm |
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Originally posted by Lyons550
I'm not so sure it is tbh..as i said elsewhere...if we're expected to pay for projects that havent yet started then personally i'd expect to have the benefits of any [outputs] they produce as well (yet another negotiating point i'd assume).... I'm more concerned with trade negotiations and import tariffs affecting long term as well as the short term than how close to £50 billion we go, which we will, as long as that is the limit in how far it goes. Merkel's £90 billion is outrageous but part of negotiating. Some of the environmental stuff and other things Cambridge is concerned of are also worth maintaining but they should both get on and just agree a fee so neither looks weak which is what this initial stage appears to be. A load of time wasting to appear strong until they meet at £50 billion.
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| Rudi Hedman Caterham 20 Oct 17 12.33pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Remaining is actually a strong position. Leave is bankruptcy and humiliation. She is paying up. Diluted, hushed strength. 7% of say which amounts to nothing when you inevitably have to put up with it all. Like sitting down for the a la carte menu, only for the waiter to take your payment in advance and leave you with the set lunch menu and to eat up fast as there's 200 hundred people outside who want your table and an a la carte lunch at set menu prices. Leave is short term pain for long term gain. The Germans did it post war, so should we post Brexit. The country will obviously need a credible leader and not iMay.
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