There is something referred to as ‘the straw that breaks the camels back’. It doesn’t matter whether the ‘straw’ is wheat, grass or barley, the end result is the same. The fact that the murderer turns out to not be an immigrant arriving in the UK recently doesn’t matter to those protesting; he was of a different ethnicity to those he attacked. The end result is the same.

I agree that there is a mob ‘having fun’, so to speak, and your view that they would riot over the closing of a Wetherspoon pub (sic) and that this is the catalyst may be right, but those on here that you think oppose you, probably wouldn’t understand that riot. They can understand these ones even if they don’t agree with them happening.

I could hypothesise that there are sections of the Irish catholic community that would like a United Ireland, and whilst they object to the violence that the IRA dished out, they could sympathise with their common cause. Likewise there are people on here that object to the violence of the riots but if the government ends up clamping down on radical people who would do us harm and stop the constant influx of undocumented individuals who just confuse the scenario, then some will say that the struggle was worth it. Cause and effect.

hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

Only a tiny proportion of people who strongly object to the current direction of travel will be out on the streets.
The vast majority will be working or sitting peacefully at home looking on.

When Starmer tries to marginalise and vilify those protesters, he is in effect doing that to all the others in their minds

Law and order has to be maintained, but Starmer's one sided authoritarian position will do nothing but inflame the situation.

It is only a matter of time before another radicalised nutcase attacks members of the public. What will happen then?

He is making the Police look like the enemy. He appears to be favouring the needs of immigrants over the majority.
Of course, there are those who don't object to mass immigration, but they are hugely over represented in Parliament and media.

We have seen in Northern Ireland what happens when a significant minority has almost no voice and is increasingly controlled and censored by government.
You don't have to agree with the cause. You only have to understand the mechanisms that make it happen.

Are objectors to mass immigration even a minority? I strongly suspect not.

The cohort on here who react like this are always good for a laugh. Now amateur psychologists able to perform a remote diagnosis based on entirely incorrect assumptions.

I don't invent friends or acquaintances. Any I refer to here are genuine. So are any life experiences, of which I have had many in my 80 years.

Nor do I troll, let alone all day. I comment on some posts. Generally in response to the attitudes that predominate in this echo chamber. Attitudes that I believe are both distasteful and isolated to a minority in the real world. Which this isn't.

I have a lot of other things in my life, have taken two calls whilst typing this and am shortly about to go out to the beach with my wife, our guest and the dog.

Those that really know me would probably chortle at the idea of me being a narcissist. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am both modest and self deprecating on a personal level, or at least always try to be. Others must judge that. I am though very determined and persistent. When I decide to do something then I do it. I am known by my friends as Mr Tenacity.

Does that make me "narcissist"? Not in my opinion, but the amateur phycologist jolly boys outing can disagree if that makes them feel happy.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Video analysis by the Jolly Heretic on why working class trust in the establishment is continuing to lower.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2024 1.52pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Yet more fantasy.

Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

I do accept a dictionary definition. I thought that was clear, but trust it is now.

It was the context which I was questioning wasn’t clear. It appeared to me that you were referring to the ability to vote. Nothing else.

I am therefore glad to know you accept that. Debates with a pedant are tedious and of no genuine interest to anyone else, excepting those looking for support for their own biases.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.