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Kermit8 Hevon 31 Jul 14 9.14am
16,000 reservists called up yesterday. That's 80,000 troops ready or already engaged now. For a small strip of land where half the population are children. This is going to get much worse for the Gazans before it gets better. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 31 Jul 14 9.14am

16,000 reservists called up yesterday. That's 80,000 troops ready or already engaged now. For a small strip of land where half the population are children.

This is going to get much worse for the Gazans before it gets better.

Big chest and massive boobs

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Jul 14 9.20am
Quote legaleagle at 31 Jul 2014 8.58am Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Jul 2014 7.01pm Quote nickgusset at 30 Jul 2014 6.45pm Quote Stirlingsays at 30 Jul 2014 6.38pm Quote nickgusset at 30 Jul 2014 6.19pm So do you now agree Stirling, that Israel was in some way responsible for the rise of Hamas in Palestine? something you previously denied. I don't know how I can make it any clearer. All alone I stated that Israel help create an organization that eventually became what we call Hamas. You linked to a page that stated that Israel deliberately created an enemy to fight with. Israel didn't create the 'Hamas' we see today whatsoever. I regard any suggestion along those lines as deliberate misinformation. Before I posted that link I also intimated that they deliberately set up Hamas for their own ends, you denied this. Yet you agree with legaleagle who said pretty much the same thing. I'm not sure I totally support that part of legal's post. I'm unsure to what extent them helping the set up of religious charities can really be related to 'rival organizations' for discord. It's possible....I'm more supportative of legal's balanced and far more objective language. Your posts are usually a million miles from that and my main attack is upon your suggestion that Israel knowingly created an enemy.....You believe that crap because you linked to it. Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2014 7.34pm) This is interesting, from 2009,re Israel's links with HAMAS or itsanecedents early on, from the perspective of some Israelis. I wasn't trying to suggest Israel created or set up HAMAS.> Rather, that it had tried to use it at certain points, and encouraged its expansion and popularity, when it had suited its strategy. [Link] Edited by legaleagle (31 Jul 2014 9.01am) Edited by legaleagle (31 Jul 2014 9.02am) How often do countries shoot themselves in the foot so to speak when utilising certain factions for their own ends? Shows the perils of that old adage, my enemy's enemy is my friend.
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So do you now agree Stirling, that Israel was in some way responsible for the rise of Hamas in Palestine? something you previously denied.

I don't know how I can make it any clearer.

All alone I stated that Israel help create an organization that eventually became what we call Hamas.

You linked to a page that stated that Israel deliberately created an enemy to fight with. Israel didn't create the 'Hamas' we see today whatsoever.

I regard any suggestion along those lines as deliberate misinformation.

Before I posted that link I also intimated that they deliberately set up Hamas for their own ends, you denied this.
Yet you agree with legaleagle who said pretty much the same thing.

I'm not sure I totally support that part of legal's post. I'm unsure to what extent them helping the set up of religious charities can really be related to 'rival organizations' for discord.

It's possible....I'm more supportative of legal's balanced and far more objective language.

Your posts are usually a million miles from that and my main attack is upon your suggestion that Israel knowingly created an enemy.....You believe that crap because you linked to it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (30 Jul 2014 7.34pm)

This is interesting, from 2009,re Israel's links with HAMAS or itsanecedents early on, from the perspective of some Israelis. I wasn't trying to suggest Israel created or set up HAMAS.> Rather, that it had tried to use it at certain points, and encouraged its expansion and popularity, when it had suited its strategy.

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How often do countries shoot themselves in the foot so to speak when utilising certain factions for their own ends? Shows the perils of that old adage, my enemy's enemy is my friend.

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Bubbs Edinburgh 31 Jul 14 9.43am
[Link] 'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'
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'Better stop dreaming of the quiet life 'cos it's the one we'll never know'

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Kermit8 Hevon 31 Jul 14 10.43am
Quote Bubbs at 31 Jul 2014 9.43am [Link] Mesmerising. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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DanH SW2 31 Jul 14 11.00am
The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning. Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels.
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The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning.

Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 31 Jul 14 1.15pm
Quote DanH at 31 Jul 2014 11.00am The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning. Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels. Totally agree. The Sun ran with a front page about some teenager with lop-sided tlts. The Gaza Holocaust was a paragraph around page 13 I disengage, I turn the page.
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Quote DanH at 31 Jul 2014 11.00am

The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning.

Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels.

Totally agree.
The Sun ran with a front page about some teenager with lop-sided tlts.
The Gaza Holocaust was a paragraph around page 13

I disengage, I turn the page.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jul 14 1.22pm
Quote Forest Hillbilly at 31 Jul 2014 1.15pm Quote DanH at 31 Jul 2014 11.00am The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning. Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels. Totally agree. The Sun ran with a front page about some teenager with lop-sided tlts. The Gaza Holocaust was a paragraph around page 13 I'm surprised the Sun didn't ask for Dana International's perspective. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 31 Jul 14 1.22pm

Quote Forest Hillbilly at 31 Jul 2014 1.15pm

Quote DanH at 31 Jul 2014 11.00am

The Times had a picture of Eastbourne pier burning down rather than Gaza burning this morning.

Crazy how this is being largely swept under the carpet by most mainstream media channels.

Totally agree.
The Sun ran with a front page about some teenager with lop-sided tlts.
The Gaza Holocaust was a paragraph around page 13

I'm surprised the Sun didn't ask for Dana International's perspective.

Red and Blue Army!

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Stirlingsays 31 Jul 14 1.33pm
These are 'national' newspapers. Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years. The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is. Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period. National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe is their 'market'. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.13pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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These are 'national' newspapers.

Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years.

The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is.

Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period.

National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe is their 'market'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.13pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Jul 14 1.44pm
Quote Stirlingsays at 31 Jul 2014 1.33pm These are 'national' newspapers. Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years. The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is. Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period. National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe in their 'market'. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 1.35pm) I wouldn't say anti Israeli, more anti people virtually imprisoned in a small stretch of land having the s*** bombed out of them.
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Quote Stirlingsays at 31 Jul 2014 1.33pm

These are 'national' newspapers.

Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years.

The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is.

Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period.

National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe in their 'market'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 1.35pm)

I wouldn't say anti Israeli, more anti people virtually imprisoned in a small stretch of land having the s*** bombed out of them.

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Stirlingsays 31 Jul 14 1.59pm
Quote nickgusset at 31 Jul 2014 1.44pm Quote Stirlingsays at 31 Jul 2014 1.33pm These are 'national' newspapers. Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years. The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is. Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period. National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe in their 'market'. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 1.35pm) I wouldn't say anti Israeli, more anti people virtually imprisoned in a small stretch of land having the s*** bombed out of them. A lot depends upon the language used....However, I'm not really referring so much to the stance taken but rather people's expectations upon the amount of coverage. You know we could also be cynical about people's capacity to 'follow the ball'. There are plenty of people dying still in Syria....But that's not the favour of the month is it. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.01pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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31 Jul 14 1.59pm

Quote nickgusset at 31 Jul 2014 1.44pm

Quote Stirlingsays at 31 Jul 2014 1.33pm

These are 'national' newspapers.

Their largest market is broadly the English people who broadly are conservative and insular in nature. The average voting patterns show that over the years.

The attitudes towards this conflict.....while not exclusively a left-right thing.....do seem to generally fall more anti Israeli the more left wing the person is.

Any international story is only going to hold traction for a limited time period.

National papers aren't there to parrot back your view of the world.....They sell fodder to what they believe in their 'market'.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 1.35pm)

I wouldn't say anti Israeli, more anti people virtually imprisoned in a small stretch of land having the s*** bombed out of them.

A lot depends upon the language used....However, I'm not really referring so much to the stance taken but rather people's expectations upon the amount of coverage.

You know we could also be cynical about people's capacity to 'follow the ball'. There are plenty of people dying still in Syria....But that's not the favour of the month is it.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.01pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 31 Jul 14 2.01pm
[Link] Absolute c***s, shooting a child in cold blood, despite being told she was no danger.
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Absolute c***s, shooting a child in cold blood, despite being told she was no danger.

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Stirlingsays 31 Jul 14 2.07pm
Quote nickgusset at 31 Jul 2014 2.01pm [Link] Absolute c***s, shooting a child in cold blood, despite being told she was no danger. The military police have launched an investigation, which has resulted in charges against the unit commander. This happens in the IDF. As has been typed up before. There are plenty of 'nutters' in the IDF from the religious right and settlement regions who.....Well shouldn't be serving....But I imagine they are the most eager to join up. I hope they thrown the book at him. Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.08pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Quote nickgusset at 31 Jul 2014 2.01pm

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Absolute c***s, shooting a child in cold blood, despite being told she was no danger.

The military police have launched an investigation, which has resulted in charges against the unit commander.

This happens in the IDF.

As has been typed up before. There are plenty of 'nutters' in the IDF from the religious right and settlement regions who.....Well shouldn't be serving....But I imagine they are the most eager to join up.

I hope they thrown the book at him.

Edited by Stirlingsays (31 Jul 2014 2.08pm)

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