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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Mar 20 1.57pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC I agree with the last para – but personally I don't think they ever considered it to be a realistic strategy in the first place. All these increasingly draconian steps are simply leading to one thing, legally enforced social restrictions (eg. Italy, Germany, max 2 people 'gatherings') I would assume that has been the end goal all along, problem is you can't just drop that straight away as you'll a) create panic, and b) probably unrest. I think there's a bit of playing dumb going on here. Has been for a while. Makes total sense when you hear they've been leaning heavily on behavioural science since the beginning to drive their overall strategy – something I think they've been doing too much of, it has a role but not a lead. Pretty sure we'll have permit systems in place by the end of the week along with legally enforceable, severe social restriction rules. On the economic POV, I know of at least one massive, UK based international corporate that is cutting some budgets by up to 4/5. We all know what that means for staff. Not exactly surprising, but I swear some people have just been skipping along blindly comforted by their own rainbow coloured ignorance blanket. I'd say I find that bizarre, but my signoff and general park attendance yesterday would suggest otherwise. One of my mates who is living with his elderly mother got scoffed at by, ironically, another older gentleman whilst going to the shops for supplies wearing a mask. Scoff all you want mate, you won't be laughing in a couple of weeks time. Masks have a 30 minute use and that’s with the ones that fulfill the standards to protect you I think. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Mar 20 1.57pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

I agree with the last para – but personally I don't think they ever considered it to be a realistic strategy in the first place. All these increasingly draconian steps are simply leading to one thing, legally enforced social restrictions (eg. Italy, Germany, max 2 people 'gatherings')

I would assume that has been the end goal all along, problem is you can't just drop that straight away as you'll a) create panic, and b) probably unrest. I think there's a bit of playing dumb going on here. Has been for a while. Makes total sense when you hear they've been leaning heavily on behavioural science since the beginning to drive their overall strategy – something I think they've been doing too much of, it has a role but not a lead.

Pretty sure we'll have permit systems in place by the end of the week along with legally enforceable, severe social restriction rules.

On the economic POV, I know of at least one massive, UK based international corporate that is cutting some budgets by up to 4/5. We all know what that means for staff. Not exactly surprising, but I swear some people have just been skipping along blindly comforted by their own rainbow coloured ignorance blanket. I'd say I find that bizarre, but my signoff and general park attendance yesterday would suggest otherwise.

One of my mates who is living with his elderly mother got scoffed at by, ironically, another older gentleman whilst going to the shops for supplies wearing a mask. Scoff all you want mate, you won't be laughing in a couple of weeks time.

Masks have a 30 minute use and that’s with the ones that fulfill the standards to protect you I think.

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.TUX. 23 Mar 20 2.01pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Our response being to destroy the economy. You can't destroy what is clearly already dead. The Feds latest plans to print to infinity and buy absolutely everything they can lay their grubby little hands on being all the proof anyone needs. Buy Litecoin.
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23 Mar 20 2.01pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Our response being to destroy the economy.

You can't destroy what is clearly already dead.
The Feds latest plans to print to infinity and buy absolutely everything they can lay their grubby little hands on being all the proof anyone needs.

Buy Litecoin.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.06pm
At The Princess of Wales hospital Merthyr Tudfil NHS staff have been sent this: This is the advice given to hospital staff. It explains the virus and hopefully, how to prevent getting it. Please share with family, friends and work colleagues. Virus Detection: The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough. The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days. The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days. Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately. Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection. Prevention: The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest. Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes. Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous. For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you. The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life. If an infected person sneezes nearby, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you. When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die. The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present. Washing your hands is essential. The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them. You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs. Disinfect things touched often: mobile phone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc .... Sent in to us just now and we wanted to share this knowledge & advice with you all. Please do the same and take care! COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.06pm

At The Princess of Wales hospital Merthyr Tudfil NHS staff have been sent this:

This is the advice given to hospital staff.
It explains the virus and hopefully, how to prevent getting it.
Please share with family, friends and work colleagues.

Virus Detection:

The simplest way to distinguish Coronavirus from a Common Cold is that the COVID-19 infection does not cause a cold nose or cough with cold, but it does create a dry and rough cough.
The virus is typically first installed in the throat causing inflammation and a feeling of dryness. This symptom can last between 3 and 4 days.
The virus typically then travels through the moisture present in the airways, goes down to the trachea and installs in the lungs, causing pneumonia that lasts about 5 or 6 days.
Pneumonia manifests with a high fever and difficulty breathing. The Common Cold is not accompanied, but there may be a choking sensation. In this case, the doctor should be called immediately.

Experts suggest doing this simple verification every morning: Breathe in deeply and hold your breath for 10 seconds. If this can be done without coughing, without difficulty, this shows that there is no fibrosis in the lungs, indicating the absence of infection. It is recommended to do this control every morning to help detect infection.

Prevention:
The virus hates heat and dies if it is exposed to temperatures greater than 80°F (27°C). Therefore hot drinks such as infusions, broths or simply hot water should be consumed abundantly during the day. These hot liquids kill the virus and are easy to ingest.
Avoid drinking ice water or drinks with ice cubes.

Ensure that your mouth and throat are always wet, never DRY. You should drink a sip of water at least every 15 minutes. WHY? Even when the virus enters water or other liquids through the mouth, it will get flushed through the oesophagus directly into the stomach where gastric acids destroy the virus. If there is not enough water, the virus can pass into the trachea and from there to the lungs, where it is very dangerous.

For those who can, sunbathe. The Sun's UV rays kill the virus and the vitamin D is good for you.
The Coronavirus has a large size (diameter of 400-500 nanometers) so face masks can stop it, no special face masks are needed in daily life.
If an infected person sneezes nearby, stay 10 feet (3.3 meters) away to allow the virus fall to the ground and prevent it from falling on you.
When the virus is on hard surfaces, it survives about 12 hours, therefore when hard surfaces such as doors, appliances, railings, etc. are touched, hands should be washed thoroughly and/or disinfected with alcoholic gel The virus can live nested in clothes and tissues between 6 and 12 hours. Common detergents can kill it. Things that cannot be washed should be exposed to the Sun and the virus will die.
The transmission of the virus usually occurs by direct infection, touching fabrics, tissues or materials on which the virus is present.
Washing your hands is essential.
The virus survives on our hands for only about 10 minutes. In that time many things can happen, rubbing the eyes, touching the nose or lips. This allows the virus to enter your throat. Therefore, for your good and the good of all, wash your hands very often and disinfect them.
You can gargle with disinfectant solutions (i.e. Listerine or Hydrogen Peroxide) that eliminate or minimize the amount of virus that can enter the throat. Doing so removes the virus before it goes down to the trachea and then to the lungs.
Disinfect things touched often: mobile phone, keyboard, mouse, car steering wheel, door handles, etc ....

Sent in to us just now and we wanted to share this knowledge & advice with you all.

Please do the same and take care!

COYP

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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Mar 20 2.08pm
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Good points. The herd immunity thing is complete assumption anyway, there’s no proof yet that it is actually applicable to this virus. It’s a calculated guess. The big error was not expanding the testing further but frankly, even those countries who have locked everything down early will find all they’ve done is delayed it rather than eliminated and it will start rising again as the roll back - although that is arguably a better situation to be in than us or Italy. Providing a working vaccine appears relatively soonish that will be enough to placate the markets and create a massive bounce. Will then take ages to be administered though - don’t think this is going to start disappearing until next summer, at the earliest As for the economy - ‘whatever it takes, for as long as it takes’. Bud might not like the reality but the reality is more and more money will be created to prevent the alternative option, which is total social and economic collapse. 08 and Mario set the precedent and if various governments repeating his soundbite somehow surprises you I’m not sure what you thought was going to happen. What this will mean, rather obviously, is an excuse for at least another 10-15 years of ‘austerity’. The other interesting thing is that this will accelerate automation and money going into how to reduce reliance on the human workforce - along with speeding up technological integration - as a bonus it’s letting them trial universal income on a massive scale. Oh yes, and esports / game developers are going to do extremely well out of this. There's an ETF called the VanEck Gaming and E Sports ETF. Could be a good choice for a couple of "rainy day" quid. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.
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Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 23 Mar 20 2.08pm

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Good points. The herd immunity thing is complete assumption anyway, there’s no proof yet that it is actually applicable to this virus. It’s a calculated guess.

The big error was not expanding the testing further but frankly, even those countries who have locked everything down early will find all they’ve done is delayed it rather than eliminated and it will start rising again as the roll back - although that is arguably a better situation to be in than us or Italy.

Providing a working vaccine appears relatively soonish that will be enough to placate the markets and create a massive bounce. Will then take ages to be administered though - don’t think this is going to start disappearing until next summer, at the earliest

As for the economy - ‘whatever it takes, for as long as it takes’. Bud might not like the reality but the reality is more and more money will be created to prevent the alternative option, which is total social and economic collapse. 08 and Mario set the precedent and if various governments repeating his soundbite somehow surprises you I’m not sure what you thought was going to happen. What this will mean, rather obviously, is an excuse for at least another 10-15 years of ‘austerity’.

The other interesting thing is that this will accelerate automation and money going into how to reduce reliance on the human workforce - along with speeding up technological integration - as a bonus it’s letting them trial universal income on a massive scale.

Oh yes, and esports / game developers are going to do extremely well out of this.

There's an ETF called the VanEck Gaming and E Sports ETF. Could be a good choice for a couple of "rainy day" quid.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

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Stirlingsays 23 Mar 20 2.08pm
Originally posted by .TUX. You can't destroy what is clearly already dead. The Feds latest plans to print to infinity and buy absolutely everything they can lay their grubby little hands on being all the proof anyone needs. Debt is money we own to ourselves. Apparently Castro has a masters in economics so perhaps he would weigh in on this.....but I would speculate that the success of a modern economy is surely much more to do with confidence and what practical alternatives exist for money to flee. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

23 Mar 20 2.08pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

You can't destroy what is clearly already dead.
The Feds latest plans to print to infinity and buy absolutely everything they can lay their grubby little hands on being all the proof anyone needs.

Debt is money we own to ourselves.

Apparently Castro has a masters in economics so perhaps he would weigh in on this.....but I would speculate that the success of a modern economy is surely much more to do with confidence and what practical alternatives exist for money to flee.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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SavoyTruffle 23 Mar 20 2.10pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays This isn't a time of war. The nearest compatible is the Spanish flu, which was far stronger.....we didn't behave like this and the estimated death toll from that was 228,000. We lost something like 400,000 in WW2......That was a fight for survival in some ways. If we did absolutely nothing....which I don't agree with....we still wouldn't lose a tiny fraction of that number. This is like destroying our economy over the Falklands. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 1.54pm) The second and third waves of the Spanish flu were stronger, the first wave wasn’t that bad. The bulk of casualties come from the later waves. I don’t want to play the game of chance with this virus, the more cases means more chance of mutations making the virus potentially more deadly. We want to do as much as we can now to limit the spread. We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this. Of course this is very different from a war, the point I’m trying to make is just because this isn’t a bomb dropping etc it doesn’t make the threat any less real. If we were under attack they would take the necessary precautions to protect us regardless of economic impact, as they should with this. My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that. Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm)
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SavoyTruffle

23 Mar 20 2.10pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

This isn't a time of war.

The nearest compatible is the Spanish flu, which was far stronger.....we didn't behave like this and the estimated death toll from that was 228,000.

We lost something like 400,000 in WW2......That was a fight for survival in some ways.

If we did absolutely nothing....which I don't agree with....we still wouldn't lose a tiny fraction of that number.

This is like destroying our economy over the Falklands.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 1.54pm)

The second and third waves of the Spanish flu were stronger, the first wave wasn’t that bad. The bulk of casualties come from the later waves. I don’t want to play the game of chance with this virus, the more cases means more chance of mutations making the virus potentially more deadly. We want to do as much as we can now to limit the spread.

We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this.

Of course this is very different from a war, the point I’m trying to make is just because this isn’t a bomb dropping etc it doesn’t make the threat any less real. If we were under attack they would take the necessary precautions to protect us regardless of economic impact, as they should with this.

My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that.

Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm)

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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that. Never a truer word said
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Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.22pm
Originally posted by SavoyTruffle The second and third waves of the Spanish flu were stronger, the first wave wasn’t that bad. The bulk of casualties come from the later waves. I don’t want to play the game of chance with this virus, the more cases means more chance of mutations making the virus potentially more deadly. We want to do as much as we can now to limit the spread. We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this. Of course this is very different from a war, the point I’m trying to make is just because this isn’t a bomb dropping etc it doesn’t make the threat any less real. If we were under attack they would take the necessary precautions to protect us regardless of economic impact, as they should with this. My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that. Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm) The trouble is complete lockdown can only last as long as people can feed themselves, so after those few weeks the virus hits back harder. I agree with Sterling, but when we have the testing kits which we don’t have and can’t get for a while, and then eventually the vaccine. We can operate and keep our vulnerable locked away but provided for. It looks as though everyone is stepping to that. But I’m getting a bit pissed off seeing certain age groups going about as if nothing has happened. Everyone knows the advice and guidance but it seems it’s to be ignored and not their problem. Maybe certain car beeps to shame them or something. Made me chuckle when I heard Scottish pubs were staying open. Dear me. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.22pm

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this.

My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that.

Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm)

The trouble is complete lockdown can only last as long as people can feed themselves, so after those few weeks the virus hits back harder. I agree with Sterling, but when we have the testing kits which we don’t have and can’t get for a while, and then eventually the vaccine.

We can operate and keep our vulnerable locked away but provided for. It looks as though everyone is stepping to that. But I’m getting a bit pissed off seeing certain age groups going about as if nothing has happened. Everyone knows the advice and guidance but it seems it’s to be ignored and not their problem. Maybe certain car beeps to shame them or something.

Made me chuckle when I heard Scottish pubs were staying open. Dear me.

COYP

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Stirlingsays 23 Mar 20 2.24pm
Originally posted by SavoyTruffle The second and third waves of the Spanish flu were stronger, the first wave wasn’t that bad. The bulk of casualties come from the later waves. I don’t want to play the game of chance with this virus, the more cases means more chance of mutations making the virus potentially more deadly. We want to do as much as we can now to limit the spread. We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this. Of course this is very different from a war, the point I’m trying to make is just because this isn’t a bomb dropping etc it doesn’t make the threat any less real. If we were under attack they would take the necessary precautions to protect us regardless of economic impact, as they should with this. My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that. Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm) There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common. This virus isn't going to be the black death and that's what our response has been like....as if it's going to wipe us out. A vaccine or successful treatments will be with us far sooner than the 18 months some cut and pasters have said....because that is what capitalism does. I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted. I hope we don't do lasting economic damage. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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23 Mar 20 2.24pm

Originally posted by SavoyTruffle

We are a much more global planet now so the spread can come about much quicker. Although I will admit we are better equipped and informed to deal with this.

My grandfather went to war to protect us, I’m being asked not to go to the pub and watch a bit more TV at home to protect him and his companions... I think we can all manage that.

Edited by SavoyTruffle (23 Mar 2020 2.14pm)

There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common.

This virus isn't going to be the black death and that's what our response has been like....as if it's going to wipe us out. A vaccine or successful treatments will be with us far sooner than the 18 months some cut and pasters have said....because that is what capitalism does.

I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted.

I hope we don't do lasting economic damage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm)

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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman At The Princess of Wales hospital Merthyr Tudfil NHS staff have been sent this: ----- Thanks Rudi useful information One more point
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.43pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common. This virus isn't going to be the black death and that's what our response has been like....as if it's going to wipe us out. A vaccine or successful treatments will be with us far sooner than the 18 months some cut and pasters have said....because that is what capitalism does. I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted. I hope we don't do lasting economic damage. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm) The kits have to arrive to start proceeding with normal life but I agree on the eventual change of tac. Hopefully some of the people who were prepared to have a holiday over the weekend can help out providing essentials to those we’d have to lock away. Somehow I doubt it. What a way to find out what we all knew about modern society. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 23 Mar 20 2.43pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common.

I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted.

I hope we don't do lasting economic damage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm)

The kits have to arrive to start proceeding with normal life but I agree on the eventual change of tac. Hopefully some of the people who were prepared to have a holiday over the weekend can help out providing essentials to those we’d have to lock away. Somehow I doubt it. What a way to find out what we all knew about modern society.

COYP

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SavoyTruffle 23 Mar 20 2.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common. This virus isn't going to be the black death and that's what our response has been like....as if it's going to wipe us out. A vaccine or successful treatments will be with us far sooner than the 18 months some cut and pasters have said....because that is what capitalism does. I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted. I hope we don't do lasting economic damage. Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm) Fair enough really, different world views and different priorities. I do agree that capitalism will bring about a vaccine very quickly as the pharmaceutical companies fight to get one to market ASAP, it is worth noting though that capitalism also stopped the development of a SARS vaccine as there was no longer money to be made, governments and companies cut funding. Covid-19 (SARS-cov-2) shares 80-90% genetic material with the original SARS virus, had we continued with pursuit of the SARS vaccine we would be in a much better place to produce something quicker now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but does raise question marks around solely having profit motives within pharmaceuticals.
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SavoyTruffle

23 Mar 20 2.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

There are always different strains of any virus - evolution in action. A deadly virus kills itself and milder strains are more common.

I respect your position because it's obviously one that comes from empathy over national economics......I hold a different view and think we have massively over-reacted.

I hope we don't do lasting economic damage.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2020 2.25pm)

Fair enough really, different world views and different priorities.

I do agree that capitalism will bring about a vaccine very quickly as the pharmaceutical companies fight to get one to market ASAP, it is worth noting though that capitalism also stopped the development of a SARS vaccine as there was no longer money to be made, governments and companies cut funding. Covid-19 (SARS-cov-2) shares 80-90% genetic material with the original SARS virus, had we continued with pursuit of the SARS vaccine we would be in a much better place to produce something quicker now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but does raise question marks around solely having profit motives within pharmaceuticals.

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