Problem with the service sector job increases, its generally low pay, low prospect work. McJobs, supermarket work etc and as such service industry work tends to appeal to casual workers (such as students), single young workers, 'top up workers' and of course migrant workers. They're not 'real jobs'.

Housing Market - Is the curse create by successive governments - Realistically, in order to resolve the housing crisis in the UK, the housing market will need to be burst. Its been artificially inflated now for decades and realistically, no longer really serves it purpose.

Rents and Prices are ridiculously high, and even poor accommodation is a massive burden on peoples incomes - Which has a massive knock on in terms of the value of wages (and of course welfare budgets - where the housing benefit is now one of the most expensive burdens). Who wants to work when 50-75% of your wages is paying for most average to poor accommodation.

Realistically, the UK needed to adapt housing policy as far back as the late 80s, to ensure citizens affordable housing (which in turn makes minimum and low wage jobs more enticing) but to do so now is going to be a brutally bitter pill to swallow.

Housing cannot continue to be 'investments', but every government since the late 80s has failed society on this, instead pointing to the affluence generation and rising market without any attempt to review the issues it causes.

I'm not fudging any numbers. I've given you them all verbatim, including data on the disposable incomes of the bottom 20%.

Including all other groups provides context, which is necessary to understand how bad or good something is and its significance.

In that report you posted the absolute poverty numbers dropped. In the ONS figures I quotes the bottom 20% became better off in real terms...

Relatively working non-parents became worse off, but were still relatively better off as they were better off to begin with.

Problem with the service sector job increases, its generally low pay, low prospect work. McJobs, supermarket work etc and as such service industry work tends to appeal to casual workers (such as students), single young workers, 'top up workers' and of course migrant workers. They're not 'real jobs'.

Housing Market - Is the curse create by successive governments - Realistically, in order to resolve the housing crisis in the UK, the housing market will need to be burst. Its been artificially inflated now for decades and realistically, no longer really serves it purpose.

Rents and Prices are ridiculously high, and even poor accommodation is a massive burden on peoples incomes - Which has a massive knock on in terms of the value of wages (and of course welfare budgets - where the housing benefit is now one of the most expensive burdens). Who wants to work when 50-75% of your wages is paying for most average to poor accommodation.

Realistically, the UK needed to adapt housing policy as far back as the late 80s, to ensure citizens affordable housing (which in turn makes minimum and low wage jobs more enticing) but to do so now is going to be a brutally bitter pill to swallow.

Housing cannot continue to be 'investments', but every government since the late 80s has failed society on this, instead pointing to the affluence generation and rising market without any attempt to review the issues it causes.

But Stirling, do you really see no difference between Corbyn and Blair? Do you see a Corbyn government ever pushing for financial deregulation, PFI, corporation tax cuts, or condoning businesses employing cheap labour abroad to undercut UK wages?

That is shocking and what's worse is that for plenty of areas in London that would be the lower end of the scale. Stupid Thatcher back in the 80's and her housing policies. Really fvcked things up for plenty now. Deregulated rent controls and no b@stard politician has brought them back since.

Yep, selling off council house stock without replacing them was probably the single worse thing Thatcher did.

Great short term policy for her....Terrible for the long term for those lower down the ladder.

She was a mixed bag...Better than Foot, who had lost control but the medicine she applied was ideological rather than practical.