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 Uphill  Bedford 10 Nov 15 5.17pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
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Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
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| Mwncisee Middlesbrough 10 Nov 15 6.53pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
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Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box.
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radsyrendot  From Coventry now in Leicester 11 Nov 15 4.32am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Mwncisee at 10 Nov 2015 6.53pm
Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 09 Nov 2015 10.44pm
Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box. What scraps, the balls into the danger area by both wide men are poor(and that's complimentary) they are either over hit far too high, or don't either beat the first defender or are nowhere near the target man. For my money Murray is a better target man than Austin, Murray scored 30 goals in our promotion season with not very good service, Austin has never score 30 in a season, his best is 24 and that is with Burnley who played to his strengths, and that's not going to happen at Palace as we do not play that way.
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| djcpfc Within a 5 minute walk 11 Nov 15 7.31am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Nov 2015 7.15am
Quote Mwncisee at 10 Nov 2015 6.53pm
Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 09 Nov 2015 10.44pm
Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box. What scraps, the balls into the danger area by both wide men are poor(and that's complimentary) they are either over hit far too high, or don't either beat the first defender or are nowhere near the target man. For my money Murray is a better target man than Austin, Murray scored 30 goals in our promotion season with not very good service, Austin has never score 30 in a season, his best is 24 and that is with Burnley who played to his strengths, and that's not going to happen at Palace as we do not play that way.
Another 10 were from inside the 6 yard box marginly better than a penalty you might say. If this doesn't constitute good service please can you point out a team that does provide good service to their front men. Bayern doesn't count. English clubs only.
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| Sg Bilko Deurne Holland 11 Nov 15 1.53pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote djcpfc at 11 Nov 2015 7.31am
Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Nov 2015 7.15am
Quote Mwncisee at 10 Nov 2015 6.53pm
Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 09 Nov 2015 10.44pm
Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box. What scraps, the balls into the danger area by both wide men are poor(and that's complimentary) they are either over hit far too high, or don't either beat the first defender or are nowhere near the target man. For my money Murray is a better target man than Austin, Murray scored 30 goals in our promotion season with not very good service, Austin has never score 30 in a season, his best is 24 and that is with Burnley who played to his strengths, and that's not going to happen at Palace as we do not play that way.
Another 10 were from inside the 6 yard box marginly better than a penalty you might say. If this doesn't constitute good service please can you point out a team that does provide good service to their front men. Bayern doesn't count. English clubs only. Let me see where do I start, Man City 26 goals of which 18 were from the strikes, Arsenal 22 goals of which 17 were from the strike force, Leicester 25 goals of which 22 were from the strikes, West Ham 23 goals of which 14 were from the strike force, Tottenham 20 goals of which 14 were from the strike force, Everton 20 goals of which 19 were from the strike force, Southampton 19 goals of which 15 were from the strike force, Crystal Palace 12 goals, of which 3(Bolasie 2 Zaha 1) were from the strike force, 9 of which have come from defensive players, do I need too say more other than strikes need service, our wide men do not provide that. To add even if we had Messi and Ronaldo in the middle they would score very little with the service from our wide players. Edited by Sg Bilko (11 Nov 2015 1.56pm)
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| MPE Maidstone 11 Nov 15 5.57pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Been injured the past few weeks, so not hearing much about him? Am not 100% sure about him, never really got excited last window of the chance of getting him.
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| Mwncisee Middlesbrough 11 Nov 15 6.24pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Nov 2015 7.15am
Quote Mwncisee at 10 Nov 2015 6.53pm
Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 09 Nov 2015 10.44pm
Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box. What scraps, the balls into the danger area by both wide men are poor(and that's complimentary) they are either over hit far too high, or don't either beat the first defender or are nowhere near the target man. For my money Murray is a better target man than Austin, Murray scored 30 goals in our promotion season with not very good service, Austin has never score 30 in a season, his best is 24 and that is with Burnley who played to his strengths, and that's not going to happen at Palace as we do not play that way.
But I will clarify what I mean by it. Whatever way you look at it Wilf and Yanick don't play great crosses often but like to dribble to ball right into the penalty box often drawing several players to them. This normally ends in them losing possession and can have the ball deflecting off a tackling defender (or out of play) these are the scraps a strong striker can muscle his way onto. (As an additional thought, although Wilf and Yanick are not proficient crossers let's not rule out Soure).
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| spartakev2 Anerley 11 Nov 15 9.40pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Can I just ask who provided the service fir Murray's 30 goals or was he such a great player he made them all himself.
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| derby eagle Derby 11 Nov 15 9.49pm |
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| djcpfc Within a 5 minute walk 12 Nov 15 12.41am |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Nov 2015 1.53pm
Quote djcpfc at 11 Nov 2015 7.31am
Quote Sg Bilko at 11 Nov 2015 7.15am
Quote Mwncisee at 10 Nov 2015 6.53pm
Quote Uphill at 10 Nov 2015 5.17pm
Quote Sg Bilko at 10 Nov 2015 4.16pm
Quote AlexTheGreat at 09 Nov 2015 10.44pm
Is an out and out goalscorer at any level. Goal ratio is 0.63 Would take him all day long, with our wingers he would score loads for us full stop. No thanks would be a waste of good money. I'm still trying to work that one out, as he would suffer the same fate as all other strikers we have, lack of a half decent Service. All strikers rely on a quality service into the box that they can feed off, that is just not happening Bolasie's is woeful, Zaha is beginning to provide a better ball into the box but it's still too infrequent to be called good, but it is getting there.
Which exactly says why we need that sort of targetman striker, a player who brings others into play and can do a bit of out muscling defenders to pick up on the scraps and lose balls that come of Zaha and Bolaise when the charge into the box. What scraps, the balls into the danger area by both wide men are poor(and that's complimentary) they are either over hit far too high, or don't either beat the first defender or are nowhere near the target man. For my money Murray is a better target man than Austin, Murray scored 30 goals in our promotion season with not very good service, Austin has never score 30 in a season, his best is 24 and that is with Burnley who played to his strengths, and that's not going to happen at Palace as we do not play that way.
Another 10 were from inside the 6 yard box marginly better than a penalty you might say. If this doesn't constitute good service please can you point out a team that does provide good service to their front men. Bayern doesn't count. English clubs only. Let me see where do I start, Man City 26 goals of which 18 were from the strikes, Arsenal 22 goals of which 17 were from the strike force, Leicester 25 goals of which 22 were from the strikes, West Ham 23 goals of which 14 were from the strike force, Tottenham 20 goals of which 14 were from the strike force, Everton 20 goals of which 19 were from the strike force, Southampton 19 goals of which 15 were from the strike force, Crystal Palace 12 goals, of which 3(Bolasie 2 Zaha 1) were from the strike force, 9 of which have come from defensive players, do I need too say more other than strikes need service, our wide men do not provide that. To add even if we had Messi and Ronaldo in the middle they would score very little with the service from our wide players. Edited by Sg Bilko (11 Nov 2015 1.56pm) Thanks for that. How many more goals would these teams score if the service was better? Would Charlie Austin have scored more goals if the service to him was better too? Murray played as a loan front man that season but if you count Wilf, And Bolaise's goals as forwards plus Philips' I'm sure we were somewhere between 60-80% of goals scored by the 'strikes'. I don't think numbers alone tell the story. Good players make and score goals, and good players lay them on a plate, bad defending also creates goals. To say the service was bad in our promotion season isn't an opinion I agree with, I still find it funny. I bet Glenn would agree with me to. Shame there isn't another video that shows Yannick and Wilf kicking crosses straight out for goal kicks. Yes service could always be better, but the reason we weren't better that season is that we couldn't keep clean sheets. Wilf cut a lot of balls back from the byline that season because he was getting round fullbacks at will. Sometimes the movement from Murray wasn't great, sometimes he missed or it was saved, sometimes it was well defended, and sometimes the cross was poor. On the whole the service was more than decent Murray scored 31 goals.
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Frickin Saweet  South Cronx 12 Nov 15 12.33pm |
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This post has been merged from a topic called 'Charlie Austin (rumour)' by james03 have we signed him yet?
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