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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 06 Jan 21 10.33am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Reminds me of ‘I’m a Barber Girl’ by Aqua and the fit Danish bird strutting around in a skirt the size of a hanky. Autocorrect giving you a bit of a close shave there?
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Stirlingsays 06 Jan 21 10.35am | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Reminds me of ‘I’m a Barber Girl’ by Aqua and the fit Danish bird strutting around in a skirt the size of a hanky. Nostalgia is one of those free enjoyments we get in life. Well, if we live long enough I suppose.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jan 21 11.50am | |
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pi5hing in the wind "During his speech, Johnson gave an overview of the new blanket restrictions imposed on England, which include a stay at home order except for essential medical need, shopping for food, exercising once a day or working if it cannot be done from home. But what he completely failed to mention in his speech was the NHS Test and Trace system - once hailed by the government as the route out of England’s lockdown. The scheme, which has so far cost the government £22bn, has been beset with problems since its launch in May. On Tuesday morning, members of Independent Sage pointed out that NHS Test and Trace was notably absent from the PM’s speech. Dr Zubaida Haque, a member of the independent panel, tweeted: "The most worrying part of 3rd #nationallockdown is that it suggests that the government’s entire plan to get us out of this pandemic is lockdown and vaccines. There was nothing about test & trace; nothing about supporting isolation. And nothing about restricting travel.”
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Stirlingsays 06 Jan 21 12.05pm | |
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Someone somewhere is lying.....which stats are accurate and an honest reflection of reality and which are 'lies, damn lies and statistics'? I honestly can't tell for sure anymore. Attachment: swedes1.JPG (33.42Kb)
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jeeagles 06 Jan 21 1.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
A damnning indictment of Public School education and jobs for 'the elite'. Not sure that getting pupils into the top jobs is an indictment of public school. Surely, it's more of an incentive to send your kids to one if you can afford it. 61% of qualified doctors in the UK are privately educated. That percentage increases as you get to positions of higher authority. Couldn't find a percentage of Aeronautical engineers, but one would expect it to be a male dominated with a disproportionate number of privately educated Oxbridge graduates at the top. The state system fails generation after generation of kids, rather than look to see what the private sector does better, it just blames them.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jan 21 2.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
pi5hing in the wind "During his speech, Johnson gave an overview of the new blanket restrictions imposed on England, which include a stay at home order except for essential medical need, shopping for food, exercising once a day or working if it cannot be done from home. But what he completely failed to mention in his speech was the NHS Test and Trace system - once hailed by the government as the route out of England’s lockdown. The scheme, which has so far cost the government £22bn, has been beset with problems since its launch in May. On Tuesday morning, members of Independent Sage pointed out that NHS Test and Trace was notably absent from the PM’s speech. Dr Zubaida Haque, a member of the independent panel, tweeted: "The most worrying part of 3rd #nationallockdown is that it suggests that the government’s entire plan to get us out of this pandemic is lockdown and vaccines. There was nothing about test & trace; nothing about supporting isolation. And nothing about restricting travel.” Test & trace is pointless when the virus exists everywhere at high levels. Germany had the tests and had an effective tracing system. But look now. Bigger Covid problem. Comparing Europe with Asia and Aus/NZ is pointless but you’ll get the same people saying you can’t compare England with Sweden. But I agree it’s been a complete waste of money and the cronyism in 2020 has been a disgrace. The government’s gamble was always lockdown and vaccinate. Only now they can’t handle vaccinating quickly either.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jan 21 2.06pm | |
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(deviation) Private school pupils benefit from reduced class sizes and better resources. They don't have to stick to the National Curriculum and OFSTED is less intensive. State Schools benefit from the National Curriculum, but have larger class sizes and a disproportionate number of disruptive pupils. The primary gain of private school pupils is the ability to network when it comes to jobs. From my own experience, I would say State schools have better educated graduates. Private schools tend to have graduates going into (mis)management. This is meant to be a critique of the acceptance of the 'system' by the masses. And back to CV19. And there you have an absolute moron running the country deeper into crisis. Assisted by his well-feathered, poorly-educated associates.
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jeeagles 06 Jan 21 3.26pm | |
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Interesting points and I agree with some of them. Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly
(deviation) Private school pupils benefit from reduced class sizes and better resources. They don't have to stick to the National Curriculum and OFSTED is less intensive.This is true, paying parents mean that its less of a daycare center and schools can be more demanding of the pupils. Parents are also more likely to have successful jobs, and can use that to inform their kids of what decisions you need to make and what soft skills they require to navigate through their education and careers. The schools can also skip parts of the national curriculum that they deem a waste of time. Take learning Welsh in Wales for example, 3 hours a week wasted learning a dead language in one of the lowest achidmiccally achieving parts of the country purely for due to political interference. Time would be better spent on addition STEM subjects State Schools benefit from the National Curriculum, but have larger class sizes and a disproportionate number of disruptive pupils.Whilst funding restricts class sizes, schools seem to have no authority over kids any more. Its no wonder we are producing so many morons who can't even pretend to abide by lockdown rules. As above, the national curriculum doesn't seem to be a benefit, more of a one size fits all approach restricting what teachers can do to prepare kids for the world. The primary gain of private school pupils is the ability to network when it comes to jobs.This certainly is no longer true. If you want a job in politics and have rich parents they can bankroll internships after internship in London, until you gain otherwise unobtainable levels of experience. From my own experience, I would say State schools have better educated graduates. Private schools tend to have graduates going into (mis)management. I've certainly known a lot of idiots from really posh schools who've neen helped into university and graduate jobs - after that its a level playing field. This is meant to be a critique of the acceptance of the 'system' by the masses. And back to CV19. And there you have an absolute moron running the country deeper into crisis. Assisted by his well-feathered, poorly-educated associates. And the opposition is ,....silent 4 years till a GE. Edited by Forest Hillbilly (06 Jan 2021 2.08pm)
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Stirlingsays 06 Jan 21 3.29pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Not sure that getting pupils into the top jobs is an indictment of public school. Surely, it's more of an incentive to send your kids to one if you can afford it. 61% of qualified doctors in the UK are privately educated. That percentage increases as you get to positions of higher authority. Couldn't find a percentage of Aeronautical engineers, but one would expect it to be a male dominated with a disproportionate number of privately educated Oxbridge graduates at the top.
Plus, it shouldn't be forgotten that around 15 percent of the population have an IQ of around 85 or lower.....I'm afraid any school is going to have an issue producing high grades with that....and unfortunately the state system will have most of those students. I'm not a massive fan of the private system however it has to be said, the state system.. (their unions being full of nutters notwithstanding)..in many places operates in a far harder and harsher environment and is then expected to compete....and when it can't it gets all the blame. The truth is more nuanced. Edited by Stirlingsays (06 Jan 2021 3.38pm)
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SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 06 Jan 21 3.39pm | |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
Not sure that getting pupils into the top jobs is an indictment of public school. Surely, it's more of an incentive to send your kids to one if you can afford it. 61% of qualified doctors in the UK are privately educated. That percentage increases as you get to positions of higher authority. Couldn't find a percentage of Aeronautical engineers, but one would expect it to be a male dominated with a disproportionate number of privately educated Oxbridge graduates at the top. The state system fails generation after generation of kids, rather than look to see what the private sector does better, it just blames them. Yep. I'll never understand why some people who can afford to send their kids into the private system choose not to. Even if you're at a good state school, it's never going to be as good as a private. Not just educationally, but in terms of facilities, opportunities, discipline, extra-curricular activities, and, yes, networking. Nonsensical – it's literally like saying 'I'm deliberately going to choose not to give my child the best possible opportunity'. Also let's not pretend that 'who you know' is only relevant to affluent individuals. It's a rule of life – whether you're referring a plumber, or securing an interview because you happen to know someone via family connection. I'm seeing plenty of evidence of this now regarding COVID – people I know who have their kids in private schools are getting a far better quality of remote tutoring than the staters, who in some cases are getting a 9am check in with a list of things to do, followed by an end of day call. The rest is left to the parents. Again, I just don't understand why you would willingly send your kids into the state system if you have the money to send them private. Last COVIDY point – someone I know had a note sent to them from their kids nursery saying a child had their place terminated today as the nursery had somehow found out that a member of the household was isolating and awaiting a test result, yet had still send the kid in. Seems harsh but frankly, it's fair. Love the decisiveness of it. Rules are rules.
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BlueJay UK 06 Jan 21 3.49pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Test & trace is pointless when the virus exists everywhere at high levels. Germany had the tests and had an effective tracing system. But look now. Bigger Covid problem. Comparing Europe with Asia and Aus/NZ is pointless but you’ll get the same people saying you can’t compare England with Sweden. But I agree it’s been a complete waste of money and the cronyism in 2020 has been a disgrace. The government’s gamble was always lockdown and vaccinate. Only now they can’t handle vaccinating quickly either. I tend to agree. Track and trace only works when it's fit for purpose and numbers are low. That opportunity was botched up, so now it seems futile to expect track and trace to suddenly reap rewards. Unfortunately there are various strategies that work well when numbers are low (to keep numbers low), that don't when things are allowed to get escalate to this point. Nothing really works now. Lockdowns will make a minor dent now (but numbers will still be high - and will shoot back up within weeks). So healthwise regardless of whether we're lockdown mad or open up, vaccination is the only show in town for the elderly and vulnerable. Hopefully it will make a meaningful difference and be at least somewhat successful. Much like flu jabs I would think we'll see an updated version every year and that could be the answer. If however new strains are able to frequently spread and run rampant every say 4 or 5 months it will be a game of cat and mouse that makes it at least partially futile. Time will tell. The nightmare scenario would be if a strain developed that impacts the young much more. Clearly the MO of a virus is to find the sweet spot of being able to propagate (for all we know there may well have been especially deadly strains that developed of late that simply killed their host rather than spread), but it's an ultra connected world, and this thing has tens of millions of opportunities to conjure up something new. It's reasonably likely to weaken over time, but really we have zero idea that what's coming next and even efforts to combat it may force it on a path that's disadvantageous [Link] as could doing nothing.
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Jan 21 3.49pm | |
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The Government (Conservative) that de-professionalised teachers by introducing SATs is now relying on,...."teacher assessment" Morons, the Government. and who voted for these idiots ?
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