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Stirlingsays 05 Jan 21 1.07am
Originally posted by SW19 CPFC Back on topic - the cancellation of all urgent cancer surgery for at least a week because of a surge in Covid patients at Kings College hospital is not good news. Hopefully not the first domino... For anyone complaining or worse, thinking all this is overblown or even fake, this is the main reason we’re all being treated like babies. Because as a whole we’re clearly behaviourally no better. Capacity not deaths, is the real issue. And we’re collectively fing it for ourselves.* This is a fundamental difference between the left and right. The left think that human nature/behaviour is faulty and requires correction by the state.....ha, unless it's about drugs perhaps. The right believes human nature is 'uncorrectable' and that you have to work with it and at worst regulate it. Generalised perhaps but I see this all the time. Well, when I say the 'right', I don't mean this shower currently operating under the description. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

05 Jan 21 1.07am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Back on topic - the cancellation of all urgent cancer surgery for at least a week because of a surge in Covid patients at Kings College hospital is not good news. Hopefully not the first domino...

For anyone complaining or worse, thinking all this is overblown or even fake, this is the main reason we’re all being treated like babies. Because as a whole we’re clearly behaviourally no better. Capacity not deaths, is the real issue. And we’re collectively f***ing it for ourselves.

This is a fundamental difference between the left and right.

The left think that human nature/behaviour is faulty and requires correction by the state.....ha, unless it's about drugs perhaps.

The right believes human nature is 'uncorrectable' and that you have to work with it and at worst regulate it.

Generalised perhaps but I see this all the time.

Well, when I say the 'right', I don't mean this shower currently operating under the description.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Spiderman Horsham 05 Jan 21 8.50am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle My flats are full. When the estate agents shut their doors I turned my units over to the council who took full responsibility for them as they were desperately needed. I set the rents lower for this period. I have an ex-prisoner in one, out on licence after a spell in a hostel. He served 14 years for murder. In fact, the demand here has been very strong. Single people and couples without ties, who are being asked to work from home have been escaping the cities and the high rents and relocating to Cornwall. At least temporarily. Who knows what will follow. Interesting that those from the cities have been allowed to cross the border! Qudos to you for lowering your rents, however I am sure you previously stated pre-lockdown that all your properties were rented out to council tenants anyway. With regard to your other posts, it is easy for a person in your situation to say make sacrifices but some have very little already to sacrifice. Reading this morning that state pension may be looked at, I suspect those, including you, who are already receiving it, will continue to receive it. People like myself, I am 64 and not eligible to receive it for another 18 months will lose out ( despite paying into the system for 44 years and having to pay over £3000 post retirement to make sure I would receive a full pension)
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Horsham 05 Jan 21 8.50am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

My flats are full. When the estate agents shut their doors I turned my units over to the council who took full responsibility for them as they were desperately needed. I set the rents lower for this period.

I have an ex-prisoner in one, out on licence after a spell in a hostel. He served 14 years for murder.

In fact, the demand here has been very strong. Single people and couples without ties, who are being asked to work from home have been escaping the cities and the high rents and relocating to Cornwall. At least temporarily. Who knows what will follow.

Interesting that those from the cities have been allowed to cross the border!
Qudos to you for lowering your rents, however I am sure you previously stated pre-lockdown that all your properties were rented out to council tenants anyway.
With regard to your other posts, it is easy for a person in your situation to say make sacrifices but some have very little already to sacrifice. Reading this morning that state pension may be looked at, I suspect those, including you, who are already receiving it, will continue to receive it. People like myself, I am 64 and not eligible to receive it for another 18 months will lose out ( despite paying into the system for 44 years and having to pay over £3000 post retirement to make sure I would receive a full pension)

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 1.37pm
Originally posted by Spiderman Interesting that those from the cities have been allowed to cross the border! Qudos to you for lowering your rents, however I am sure you previously stated pre-lockdown that all your properties were rented out to council tenants anyway. With regard to your other posts, it is easy for a person in your situation to say make sacrifices but some have very little already to sacrifice. Reading this morning that state pension may be looked at, I suspect those, including you, who are already receiving it, will continue to receive it. People like myself, I am 64 and not eligible to receive it for another 18 months will lose out ( despite paying into the system for 44 years and having to pay over £3000 post retirement to make sure I would receive a full pension) I had a tenant wreck one of my flats sometime in January or February and I couldn't gain entry or give him notice because of the tenant protections that were introduced. In finally got inside in May. No rent for 6 months and weeks of work and cost to get it habitable again. It was indescribably filthy and full of evidence of drug abuse. That cost around £5,000. The agents were closed so I did everything myself. It was as the lockdown started, or maybe when I was anticipating it, that I shifted to the council. What will happen with taxes and pensions is impossible to really predict. I am though anticipating that all who can afford to bear it will be asked to. Including us current pensioners. How to manage this is not a political problem that I would want to face. Whatever is done is not going to be popular. To find ways to ensure demand remains high whilst protecting those in need isn't easy. It's complicated by the strong probability, in my view, of a worldwide recession. We are far from alone in the need to deal with this. So some debt forgiving, or at the very least, long term postponement, is likely to be needed. This is when the global economy and its structures will need to demonstrate strength and determination. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 1.37pm

Originally posted by Spiderman

I had a tenant wreck one of my flats sometime in January or February and I couldn't gain entry or give him notice because of the tenant protections that were introduced. In finally got inside in May. No rent for 6 months and weeks of work and cost to get it habitable again. It was indescribably filthy and full of evidence of drug abuse. That cost around £5,000. The agents were closed so I did everything myself. It was as the lockdown started, or maybe when I was anticipating it, that I shifted to the council.

What will happen with taxes and pensions is impossible to really predict. I am though anticipating that all who can afford to bear it will be asked to. Including us current pensioners.

How to manage this is not a political problem that I would want to face. Whatever is done is not going to be popular. To find ways to ensure demand remains high whilst protecting those in need isn't easy.

It's complicated by the strong probability, in my view, of a worldwide recession. We are far from alone in the need to deal with this.

So some debt forgiving, or at the very least, long term postponement, is likely to be needed.

This is when the global economy and its structures will need to demonstrate strength and determination.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 05 Jan 21 1.42pm
A damnning indictment of Public School education and jobs for 'the elite'. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or brain surgeon to foresee that fact that lifting restrictions is going to cause a surge in cases. Now the UK population/industries is in a worse situation than when CV19 came to light. Anyone can do a great job in government whilst things are tickety-boo. It's when things get messy that real leaders show their skills. This is sadly lacking in UK Government and opposition. And we had Dominic Cummings and his 'test-driving' across the country, and on the tail-end of that we have an MP doing a homicidal journey on public transport (and no doubt claiming travel/subsistence and attendance expenses) [Link] "Scottish MP Margaret Ferrier has been arrested by police after she admitted using public transport while infected with Covid-19. Ms Ferrier apologised for what she called a "blip" in September. She was suspended from the SNP group at Westminster and leaders, including First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, urged her to quit as an MP over the row. Police Scotland said she had been charged in connection with "alleged culpable and reckless conduct". Ms Ferrier apologised in September after travelling from London to Glasgow having tested positive for coronavirus. The Rutherglen and Hamilton West MP said she had experienced "mild symptoms" and taken a test, but had then decided to travel to Westminster because she was "feeling much better". She then travelled home again on a train after receiving the positive test result, and said she "deeply regretted" her actions. A Police Scotland spokesman said: "We can confirm that officers today arrested and charged a 60-year-old woman in connection with alleged culpable and reckless conduct." (BBC website) I disengage, I turn the page.
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A damnning indictment of Public School education and jobs for 'the elite'.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist or brain surgeon to foresee that fact that lifting restrictions is going to cause a surge in cases. Now the UK population/industries is in a worse situation than when CV19 came to light.

Anyone can do a great job in government whilst things are tickety-boo. It's when things get messy that real leaders show their skills.
This is sadly lacking in UK Government and opposition.

And we had Dominic Cummings and his 'test-driving' across the country, and on the tail-end of that we have an MP doing a homicidal journey on public transport (and no doubt claiming travel/subsistence and attendance expenses)
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"Scottish MP Margaret Ferrier has been arrested by police after she admitted using public transport while infected with Covid-19.

Ms Ferrier apologised for what she called a "blip" in September.

She was suspended from the SNP group at Westminster and leaders, including First Minister Nicola Sturgeon, urged her to quit as an MP over the row.

Police Scotland said she had been charged in connection with "alleged culpable and reckless conduct".

Ms Ferrier apologised in September after travelling from London to Glasgow having tested positive for coronavirus.

The Rutherglen and Hamilton West MP said she had experienced "mild symptoms" and taken a test, but had then decided to travel to Westminster because she was "feeling much better".

She then travelled home again on a train after receiving the positive test result, and said she "deeply regretted" her actions.

A Police Scotland spokesman said: "We can confirm that officers today arrested and charged a 60-year-old woman in connection with alleged culpable and reckless conduct." (BBC website)

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays 05 Jan 21 5.00pm
PJW's take on the latest lockdown. A refreshing change from the Karens and Kens. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 5.02pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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05 Jan 21 5.00pm

PJW's take on the latest lockdown.

A refreshing change from the Karens and Kens.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 5.02pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 05 Jan 21 7.46pm
How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out. [Link] COYP
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Caterham 05 Jan 21 7.46pm

How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out.

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COYP

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 10.14pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays PJW's take on the latest lockdown. A refreshing change from the Karens and Kens. [Link] Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 5.02pm) If you find that angry t*** refreshing then heaven help you! Nobody could possibly be "refreshed" by those ideas. If that's the quality of the kind of "alternative" viewpoints you subscribe to then it's little wonder you are on the fringes. They make no sense whatsoever. Never mind the "Karens and Kens". You don't even have to be that bright to see through them. Dumb and Dumber could manage it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 10.14pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

PJW's take on the latest lockdown.

A refreshing change from the Karens and Kens.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Jan 2021 5.02pm)

If you find that angry t*** refreshing then heaven help you! Nobody could possibly be "refreshed" by those ideas.

If that's the quality of the kind of "alternative" viewpoints you subscribe to then it's little wonder you are on the fringes. They make no sense whatsoever.

Never mind the "Karens and Kens". You don't even have to be that bright to see through them. Dumb and Dumber could manage it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Eaglecoops CR3 05 Jan 21 10.16pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out. [Link] I want the same drugs Mazzucato is on.
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Eaglecoops

CR3 05 Jan 21 10.16pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out.

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I want the same drugs Mazzucato is on.

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 10.21pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out. [Link] That deserves careful study and thought. It feels like a really far-reaching attempt to see what it's possible for us all to achieve if we work together to achieve it. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 05 Jan 21 10.21pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

How Time magazine sees their new normal of bigger government and control of the people and business panning out.

[Link]

That deserves careful study and thought.

It feels like a really far-reaching attempt to see what it's possible for us all to achieve if we work together to achieve it.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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Stirlingsays 06 Jan 21 2.48am
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle If you find that angry t*** refreshing then heaven help you! Nobody could possibly be "refreshed" by those ideas. If that's the quality of the kind of "alternative" viewpoints you subscribe to then it's little wonder you are on the fringes. They make no sense whatsoever. Never mind the "Karens and Kens". You don't even have to be that bright to see through them. Dumb and Dumber could manage it. Ok Ken. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

06 Jan 21 2.48am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you find that angry t*** refreshing then heaven help you! Nobody could possibly be "refreshed" by those ideas.

If that's the quality of the kind of "alternative" viewpoints you subscribe to then it's little wonder you are on the fringes. They make no sense whatsoever.

Never mind the "Karens and Kens". You don't even have to be that bright to see through them. Dumb and Dumber could manage it.

Ok Ken.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jan 21 10.00am
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Ok Ken. Reminds me of ‘I’m a Barbie Girl’ by Aqua and the fit Danish bird strutting around in a skirt the size of a hanky. Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Jan 2021 10.54am) COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Jan 21 10.00am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Ok Ken.

Reminds me of ‘I’m a Barbie Girl’ by Aqua and the fit Danish bird strutting around in a skirt the size of a hanky.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (06 Jan 2021 10.54am)

COYP

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jan 21 10.01am
C3PO didn’t have humour programmed into it/him. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Jan 21 10.01am

C3PO didn’t have humour programmed into it/him.

COYP

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