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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.51pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Why do you keep avoiding questions today I wonder. Is it because you realise that we have rumbled you for the far left fascist you are?
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 Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.55pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Because people who have horrific far-right views thought they had 'won' with the referendum and now feel a bit more emboldened. If you are wondering why disabled or others not so obvious are more targeted now than perhaps a year or so ago then I suggest you look at the demographic of victims at Auschwitz and what far-right violent nutters are capable of. It wasn't just Jewish people. What you are saying is not only totally erroneous, but deeply disrespectful to people who were killed by the Nazis.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.57pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
So you are comparing Nazis to EU voters. WOW! You've pulled up an opinion piece for the New York Times as evidence to back this up. And you're a teacher too! I'm not comparing Nazis to EU voters. I thought you were bright but obviously have to spell it out for you. You said how come there's been a rise in hate crime on the disabled and trans. The link discusses Nazi ill treatment of the disabled (there are other more scholarly articles I could have chosen, Google it)
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 Hrolf The Ganger 17 Oct 17 8.59pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
'Oh dear' all you like. You have been exposed.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 9.01pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I'm not comparing Nazis to EU voters. I thought you were bright but obviously have to spell it out for you. You said how come there's been a rise in hate crime on the disabled and trans. The link discusses Nazi ill treatment of the disabled (there are other more scholarly articles I could have chosen, Google it) I think you are making the comparison Nick, why mention it then? You have far left views, so everyone who is the right of Stalin is a RACIST and NAZI!
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 9.02pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
What you are saying is not only totally erroneous, but deeply disrespectful to people who were killed by the Nazis. No it isn't. Anyone putting their fingers in their ears and ignoring the fact that hate crimes are going up and blaming others when far right parties are getting a foothold across Europe is tacitly spitting on the graves of those that died fighting Nazis and fascists.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 9.08pm |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
I think you are making the comparison Nick, why mention it then? You have far left views, so everyone who is the right of Stalin is a RACIST and NAZI! Absolute cobblers. Stalin was a c***. Communism hasn't really worked. Marx had some very good ideas. So all the dead cat look at communism arguments rather than discussing the rise of fascism falls on deaf ears hear I'm afraid. Hate crimes are up post Brexit. Thems the facts. Face them, don't excuse them otherwise it sorta looks bad on you. Communism has nothing to do with it.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 9.11pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No it isn't. Anyone putting their fingers in their ears and ignoring the fact that hate crimes are going up and blaming others when far right parties are getting a foothold across Europe is tacitly spitting on the graves of those that died fighting Nazis and fascists. Current 'hate crimes' practice means anyone, anywhere, can report something they either experienced or witnessed, anonymously if they like. No evidence is needed. Everything is instantly logged as a hate incident. The figures resulting from this absurdity are worthless.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 9.12pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Absolute cobblers. Stalin was a c***. Communism hasn't really worked. Marx had some very good ideas. So all the dead cat look at communism arguments rather than discussing the rise of fascism falls on deaf ears hear I'm afraid. Hate crimes are up post Brexit. Thems the facts. Face them, don't excuse them otherwise it sorta looks bad on you. Communism has nothing to do with it. Please tell!
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 9.13pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No it isn't. Anyone putting their fingers in their ears and ignoring the fact that hate crimes are going up and blaming others when far right parties are getting a foothold across Europe is tacitly spitting on the graves of those that died fighting Nazis and fascists. You keep changing the argument! The rise in hate crime is specifically about Brexit UK, you said. For example, mean tweets are now included under the 'hate crime' stats. There are now police departments set up to register all of these. Part of the reason for the rise. And just for the record, I am against any kind of racist, homophobic, disability abuse. But I tend to look into stories a bit more than just the fear mongering headlines! Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 9.14pm)
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 9.16pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Absolute cobblers. Stalin was a c***. Communism hasn't really worked. Marx had some very good ideas. So all the dead cat look at communism arguments rather than discussing the rise of fascism falls on deaf ears hear I'm afraid. Hate crimes are up post Brexit. Thems the facts. Face them, don't excuse them otherwise it sorta looks bad on you. Communism has nothing to do with it. You've lost any kind of moral high ground in the last hour by condoning political violence.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 17 Oct 17 9.24pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No it isn't. Anyone putting their fingers in their ears and ignoring the fact that hate crimes are going up and blaming others when far right parties are getting a foothold across Europe is tacitly spitting on the graves of those that died fighting Nazis and fascists. What absolute twaddle. You can't seriously compare Britain in 2017 to Nazi Germany.
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