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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 2.07pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle Given the country's current predicament I find it very difficult to understand how you can still be maintaining your stance, that the cure is worse than the disease. The mess we would now be in if we had followed your approach is of nightmare proportions. It's bad enough now but at least most of us have a chance of getting treatment and surviving should we get it, along with getting the other NHS care than many require. Of course the economic hit is awful and the damage to our children's education regrettable. We can though recover from both. We may all have to do with a few less "things" for a while. Less holidays, gadgets and pints, but most will have the most precious thing of all. Life. I assume that should you get C19, which I sincerely hope you don't, that you will refuse to accept NHS treatment on the basis that it isn't needed as it's only like getting the flu. To suggest that we will recover from the economic hit just shows that you are economically illiterate. You haven't a clue what you are talking about...You have no idea how much debt we are in now do you?....seriously it probably amounts to the dimmest thing you have said on here. 'Less holidays' indeed.....Jesus! All that can be done is to continually print money and continually increase the debt and the interest on it, stealing money from the next generation....only rampant inflation can start to pay it off...and that's going to feck the middle and working class even more than mid wit lockdowns. Unless a worldwide debt jubilee is set up....and that would feck all the oldies living off pensions. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 3.04pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 2.07pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Given the country's current predicament I find it very difficult to understand how you can still be maintaining your stance, that the cure is worse than the disease.

The mess we would now be in if we had followed your approach is of nightmare proportions. It's bad enough now but at least most of us have a chance of getting treatment and surviving should we get it, along with getting the other NHS care than many require.

Of course the economic hit is awful and the damage to our children's education regrettable. We can though recover from both. We may all have to do with a few less "things" for a while. Less holidays, gadgets and pints, but most will have the most precious thing of all. Life.

I assume that should you get C19, which I sincerely hope you don't, that you will refuse to accept NHS treatment on the basis that it isn't needed as it's only like getting the flu.

To suggest that we will recover from the economic hit just shows that you are economically illiterate.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about...You have no idea how much debt we are in now do you?....seriously it probably amounts to the dimmest thing you have said on here.

'Less holidays' indeed.....Jesus!

All that can be done is to continually print money and continually increase the debt and the interest on it, stealing money from the next generation....only rampant inflation can start to pay it off...and that's going to feck the middle and working class even more than mid wit lockdowns.

Unless a worldwide debt jubilee is set up....and that would feck all the oldies living off pensions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 3.04pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Jan 21 2.13pm
Scotland in national lockdown from midnight. Everyone told to stay in. COYP
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Caterham 04 Jan 21 2.13pm

Scotland in national lockdown from midnight. Everyone told to stay in.

COYP

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Teddy Eagle 04 Jan 21 2.21pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Scotland in national lockdown from midnight. Everyone told to stay in. Apart from schools being closed there is no real difference to what was happening yesterday.
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Teddy Eagle

04 Jan 21 2.21pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Scotland in national lockdown from midnight. Everyone told to stay in.

Apart from schools being closed there is no real difference to what was happening yesterday.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 04 Jan 21 2.28pm
"Rich feathering their own nests and leaving poorest to die", in shock new headline,... I disengage, I turn the page.
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"Rich feathering their own nests and leaving poorest to die", in shock new headline,...

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Stirlingsays 04 Jan 21 2.44pm
Godfrey Bloom's letter to Rishi Sunak. For those who actually want to know the economic bed these slimy liars have made for us I suggest you read his letter. Knowledge may be power for you. [Link] 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

04 Jan 21 2.44pm

Godfrey Bloom's letter to Rishi Sunak.

For those who actually want to know the economic bed these slimy liars have made for us I suggest you read his letter.

Knowledge may be power for you.

[Link]

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Lombardinho London 04 Jan 21 3.24pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly And so today we see another surge in infection rates. All totally predictable now specific guidance/laws seem to have in-built flexibility. Here's something a professor (not on the Government's payroll) said yesterday. "Prof Hugh Montgomery told BBC Radio 5 Live hospitals were facing a "tsunami" of Covid cases and he feared it would get worse after New Year's Eve. Prof Montgomery, who works in intensive care at London's Whittington Hospital, and leads a research group at UCL, said: "We are in a lot of trouble in UK intensive care now. Just huge numbers coming in, my heart goes out as well to our emergency departments, seeing a tsunami in the last week or two of cases. Everyone is working at maximum stretch. He told Radio 5's Rachel Burden it was wrong to blame the surge in cases and deaths on the new variant of coronavirus, which was only "slightly" more transmissible and caused the same symptoms. "It is making me actually very angry now that people are laying the blame on the virus, and it is not the virus, it is people, people are not washing their hands, they are not wearing their masks," he said. And he warned anyone not social distancing or following the rules that they "have blood on their hands". "They are spreading this virus. Other people will spread it and people will die. They won't know they have killed people but they have." He added: "I am watching whole families getting wiped out here, and it's got to stop." (BBC website) and to illustrate why people are morons, attached is a photo of London on NYE. Notice the distancing and face masks (lack of) I spoke to a mate who was at that precise location in the photograph. He said it was dead. Turns out the photograph was taken in 2018 ( two years earlier than you and many others were lead to believe). Just saying.
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Lombardinho

London 04 Jan 21 3.24pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

And so today we see another surge in infection rates. All totally predictable now specific guidance/laws seem to have in-built flexibility.

Here's something a professor (not on the Government's payroll) said yesterday.

"Prof Hugh Montgomery told BBC Radio 5 Live hospitals were facing a "tsunami" of Covid cases and he feared it would get worse after New Year's Eve.
Prof Montgomery, who works in intensive care at London's Whittington Hospital, and leads a research group at UCL, said: "We are in a lot of trouble in UK intensive care now.

Just huge numbers coming in, my heart goes out as well to our emergency departments, seeing a tsunami in the last week or two of cases. Everyone is working at maximum stretch.
He told Radio 5's Rachel Burden it was wrong to blame the surge in cases and deaths on the new variant of coronavirus, which was only "slightly" more transmissible and caused the same symptoms.

"It is making me actually very angry now that people are laying the blame on the virus, and it is not the virus, it is people, people are not washing their hands, they are not wearing their masks," he said.
And he warned anyone not social distancing or following the rules that they "have blood on their hands".

"They are spreading this virus. Other people will spread it and people will die. They won't know they have killed people but they have."

He added: "I am watching whole families getting wiped out here, and it's got to stop."
(BBC website)

and to illustrate why people are morons, attached is a photo of London on NYE. Notice the distancing and face masks (lack of)

I spoke to a mate who was at that precise location in the photograph.
He said it was dead.
Turns out the photograph was taken in 2018 ( two years earlier than you and many others were lead to believe).

Just saying.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Jan 21 3.48pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly "Rich feathering their own nests and leaving poorest to die", in shock new headline,... What do you think happens with lockdowns and school closures? The wealth and opportunity gaps widen. So progressive. Oh well. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 04 Jan 21 3.48pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

"Rich feathering their own nests and leaving poorest to die", in shock new headline,...

What do you think happens with lockdowns and school closures?

The wealth and opportunity gaps widen. So progressive. Oh well.

COYP

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The Dolphin 04 Jan 21 5.08pm
The Bloom article is great! The Pandemic is real but huge cuts could be made to help pay for it and many would not even affect the majority of people in this Country - I include those who are really struggling in that majority. At the risk of changing tack in am important thread - to see Quango's decimated, public spend wastage stopped and to see the NHS budget used sensibly - those three alone would be amazing! It won't happen sadly because no one in power is brave enough.
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The Dolphin

04 Jan 21 5.08pm

The Bloom article is great!
The Pandemic is real but huge cuts could be made to help pay for it and many would not even affect the majority of people in this Country - I include those who are really struggling in that majority.
At the risk of changing tack in am important thread - to see Quango's decimated, public spend wastage stopped and to see the NHS budget used sensibly - those three alone would be amazing!
It won't happen sadly because no one in power is brave enough.

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Eden Eagle Kent 04 Jan 21 7.36pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays To suggest that we will recover from the economic hit just shows that you are economically illiterate. You haven't a clue what you are talking about...You have no idea how much debt we are in now do you?....seriously it probably amounts to the dimmest thing you have said on here. 'Less holidays' indeed.....Jesus! All that can be done is to continually print money and continually increase the debt and the interest on it, stealing money from the next generation....only rampant inflation can start to pay it off...and that's going to feck the middle and working class even more than mid wit lockdowns. Unless a worldwide debt jubilee is set up....and that would feck all the oldies living off pensions. Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 3.04pm) I raised this point with WE re the economic damage and his tone deaf stance on the impact that lockdowns caused some months ago and he was good enough to concede that his messaging was insensitive to the millions who have lost their jobs, livelihoods, had their mental heath impacted and the hundreds of thousands of people who have had their NHS appointments cancelled.
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Eden Eagle

Kent 04 Jan 21 7.36pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

To suggest that we will recover from the economic hit just shows that you are economically illiterate.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about...You have no idea how much debt we are in now do you?....seriously it probably amounts to the dimmest thing you have said on here.

'Less holidays' indeed.....Jesus!

Unless a worldwide debt jubilee is set up....and that would feck all the oldies living off pensions.

Edited by Stirlingsays (04 Jan 2021 3.04pm)

I raised this point with WE re the economic damage and his tone deaf stance on the impact that lockdowns caused some months ago and he was good enough to concede that his messaging was insensitive to the millions who have lost their jobs, livelihoods, had their mental heath impacted and the hundreds of thousands of people who have had their NHS appointments cancelled.

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Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Jan 21 8.16pm
Originally posted by Eden Eagle I raised this point with WE re the economic damage and his tone deaf stance on the impact that lockdowns caused some months ago and he was good enough to concede that his messaging was insensitive to the millions who have lost their jobs, livelihoods, had their mental heath impacted and the hundreds of thousands of people who have had their NHS appointments cancelled. Hearing more self employed fathers breaking down on the radio in recent days. Job and livelihoods gone. House going. Marriage in trouble. Young families torn apart. COYP
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Rudi Hedman

Caterham 04 Jan 21 8.16pm

Originally posted by Eden Eagle

Hearing more self employed fathers breaking down on the radio in recent days. Job and livelihoods gone. House going. Marriage in trouble. Young families torn apart.

COYP

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