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hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 8.16pm
Originally posted by pefwin It was people like him that invented concentration camps in the Second Boer War. A report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps. Perhaps in modern history the British were the first to use phrases like 'by any means necessary'? Who, me or gusset? Seems an odd claim to make for either of us! We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 17 Oct 17 8.16pm

Originally posted by pefwin

It was people like him that invented concentration camps in the Second Boer War. A report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps.

Perhaps in modern history the British were the first to use phrases like 'by any means necessary'?

Who, me or gusset? Seems an odd claim to make for either of us!

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.19pm
Originally posted by elgrande Number one,i have never said that i like the fact " far right parties" have gained momentum. Because they are anti immigration does that mean they have to be far right. And i am not ex military,one of my sons is a serving infantryman..and my father was in the royal artillery in the second world war...me not. And where the f* have i said i condone women or anyone being spat at. My sons been spat at by asians,in this country is that a hate crime?,stop making thing's up it makes you sound stupid and childish. I did make a load of s* up about you deliberately in the hope it will make you pause and contemplate before making up s*** about me. Ok?
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Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.19pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Number one,i have never said that i like the fact " far right parties" have gained momentum.
Because they are anti immigration does that mean they have to be far right.
And i am not ex military,one of my sons is a serving infantryman..and my father was in the royal artillery in the second world war...me not.
And where the f*** have i said i condone women or anyone being spat at.
My sons been spat at by asians,in this country is that a hate crime?,stop making thing's up it makes you sound stupid and childish.

I did make a load of s*** up about you deliberately in the hope it will make you pause and contemplate before making up s*** about me.

Ok?

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.20pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Fascism needs defeating by any means necessary. OK, so you agree with what Antifa do. Incredible. So smashing up property and violence against people and cops is justified, just because sometimes you get a few Nazis! Do you not understand that Antifa are fascist by shutting down anyone whose views they don't agree with? Definition of fascism. You agree with political violence. You are a domestic terrorist sympathiser. You've nailed your colours to the mast. Part of the far left. Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.24pm)
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Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.20pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Fascism needs defeating by any means necessary.

OK, so you agree with what Antifa do. Incredible.

So smashing up property and violence against people and cops is justified, just because sometimes you get a few Nazis!

Do you not understand that Antifa are fascist by shutting down anyone whose views they don't agree with? Definition of fascism.

You agree with political violence.

You are a domestic terrorist sympathiser.

You've nailed your colours to the mast. Part of the far left.

Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.24pm)

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.23pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Well done everyone. [Tweet Link] The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened. So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that? Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm)
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Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.23pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Well done everyone.

[Tweet Link]

The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened.

So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that?

Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm)

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.31pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened. So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that? Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm) Smallminded t***s feel emboldened? Minority groups who aren't 'like us' usually are the first on the list. [Link] I can't believe you are looking for excuses. There are dozens of reports about hate crime. Can you find a peer reviewed argument that it's just people making it up. The white man is pished cos he sure is getting called out on a lot of things lately. Uncomfortable isn't it? Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 8.34pm)
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Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.31pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened.

So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that?

Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm)

Smallminded t***s feel emboldened?
Minority groups who aren't 'like us' usually are the first on the list.

[Link]

I can't believe you are looking for excuses. There are dozens of reports about hate crime. Can you find a peer reviewed argument that it's just people making it up.

The white man is pished cos he sure is getting called out on a lot of things lately. Uncomfortable isn't it?

Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 8.34pm)

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elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 8.32pm
Originally posted by nickgusset I did make a load of s* up about you deliberately in the hope it will make you pause and contemplate before making up s* about me. Ok? What that you are stupid and childish...i stand by that. always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.
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bedford 17 Oct 17 8.32pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I did make a load of s*** up about you deliberately in the hope it will make you pause and contemplate before making up s*** about me.

Ok?

What that you are stupid and childish...i stand by that.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 8.34pm
Originally posted by Penge Eagle The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened. So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that? Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm) Because people who have horrific far-right views thought they had 'won' with the referendum and now feel a bit more emboldened. If you are wondering why disabled or others not so obvious are more targeted now than perhaps a year or so ago then I suggest you look at the demographic of victims at Auschwitz and what far-right violent nutters are capable of. It wasn't just Jewish people. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 17 Oct 17 8.34pm

Originally posted by Penge Eagle

The stats are literally just ringing up to report a hate crime, it's not actually hate crimes that have happened.

So how has leaving the EU meant that people with disability or being transgender, for example, have had more abuse at them? Explain that?

Edited by Penge Eagle (17 Oct 2017 8.27pm)

Because people who have horrific far-right views thought they had 'won' with the referendum and now feel a bit more emboldened.

If you are wondering why disabled or others not so obvious are more targeted now than perhaps a year or so ago then I suggest you look at the demographic of victims at Auschwitz and what far-right violent nutters are capable of. It wasn't just Jewish people.

Big chest and massive boobs

[Link]

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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.36pm
Originally posted by elgrande What that you are stupid and childish...i stand by that. If you want to fling made up bollocks, be my guest, just don't complain if I throw some back. OK?
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Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 8.36pm

Originally posted by elgrande

What that you are stupid and childish...i stand by that.

If you want to fling made up bollocks, be my guest, just don't complain if I throw some back.
OK?

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Oct 17 8.37pm
Originally posted by CambridgeEagle I'd say an ideology was a system of ideas/ideals that underpin political and economic policy. How they interact and how they are proposed to be delivered is quite important I think. That is the application of ideology, not ideology.
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17 Oct 17 8.37pm

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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I'd say an ideology was a system of ideas/ideals that underpin political and economic policy. How they interact and how they are proposed to be delivered is quite important I think.

That is the application of ideology, not ideology.

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Hrolf The Ganger 17 Oct 17 8.41pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible. I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that. Why do you keep avoiding questions today I wonder. Is it because you realise that we have rumbled you for the far left fascist you are?
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17 Oct 17 8.41pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible.

I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that.

Why do you keep avoiding questions today I wonder.

Is it because you realise that we have rumbled you for the far left fascist you are?

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Penge Eagle Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.49pm
Originally posted by nickgusset Smallminded t***s feel emboldened? Minority groups who aren't 'like us' usually are the first on the list. [Link] I can't believe you are looking for excuses. There are dozens of reports about hate crime. Can you find a peer reviewed argument that it's just people making it up. The white man is pished cos he sure is getting called out on a lot of things lately. Uncomfortable isn't it? Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 8.34pm) So you are comparing Nazis to EU voters. WOW! You've pulled up an opinion piece for the New York Times as evidence to back this up. And you're a teacher too!
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Beckenham 17 Oct 17 8.49pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Smallminded t***s feel emboldened?
Minority groups who aren't 'like us' usually are the first on the list.

[Link]

I can't believe you are looking for excuses. There are dozens of reports about hate crime. Can you find a peer reviewed argument that it's just people making it up.

The white man is pished cos he sure is getting called out on a lot of things lately. Uncomfortable isn't it?

Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 8.34pm)

So you are comparing Nazis to EU voters. WOW!

You've pulled up an opinion piece for the New York Times as evidence to back this up. And you're a teacher too!

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Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 8.50pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 Because people who have horrific far-right views thought they had 'won' with the referendum and now feel a bit more emboldened. If you are wondering why disabled or others not so obvious are more targeted now than perhaps a year or so ago then I suggest you look at the demographic of victims at Auschwitz and what far-right violent nutters are capable of. It wasn't just Jewish people. ? Who are these people with 'horrific far-right views' that you compare with the exterminators at Auschwitz?...Leave voters?......blimey! Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2017 8.52pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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