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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.02pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism... Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz. Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.04pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Meanwhile,out of gusset land the headv of the security services has said that we are facing an unprecedented level of terrorism... What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ.
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elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Would have some way to go still to usurp the IRA mainland campaigns in the 70's and 80's and, arguably, the Blitz. Not diminishing the threat but unprecedented is a bit of an error on his part which, hopefully, will remain just that. Sorry kermit i disagree.
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elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.10pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
What the f*** do you mean. Because I don't want innocent people treated as guilty by dint of them being muslims doesn't mean I support terrorism. Jesus Christ. You are missing the point (probably deliberately),in your world we should be more worried about a couple of hundred bonehead idiots than the over 3000 active terrorists that the security services are monitoring.
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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
Sorry kermit i disagree. Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent. Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 7.18pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Why are you going on about communists? Why are you bringing up concentration camps? How have you made that leap? f***ing incredible. I think you need to retract your final solution comment. Didn't Katie Hopkins lose a job for that. You said 'by any means necessary'. Do you really mean 'by any means necessary apart from concentration camps'? I am going on about communists because they are as ruthless in their 'means' as fascists are. Both use phrases like 'by any means necessary'.
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pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 7.26pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
You know what was disgusting. Your use of the phrase 'final solution' It was people like him that invented concentration camps in the Second Boer War. A report after the war concluded that 27,927 Boers (of whom 22,074 were children under 16) and 14,154 black Africans had died of starvation, disease and exposure in the camps. Perhaps in modern history the British were the first to use phrases like 'by any means necessary'?
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elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 7.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Would you believe at its height the Provos had 30,000 members? Probably in the years just after Bloody Sunday when the attacks here and in NI (all part of the UK) were ferocious and frequent. Still a long way to go to get to that level thank christ. True,but if the truth is known we have no idea how many potential jihadists we have here,or the ones that will be coming back from Syria or Iraqi.
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Kermit8 Hevon 17 Oct 17 7.37pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
True,but if the truth is known we have no idea how many potential jihadists we have here,or the ones that will be coming back from Syria or Iraqi. 850 from the UK left for Syria it has been reported recently and plenty of them would have been killed there or arrested on return or are just not coming back. What we don't know of course is how many lone wolves or groups there are here who are actually psycho enough to do something rather than just think about it. There's been about 25 in the last 13 years since the tube blasts who have plus those who were caught before they were able to. Edited by Kermit8 (17 Oct 2017 7.38pm)
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.53pm | |
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Originally posted by elgrande
You are missing the point (probably deliberately),in your world we should be more worried about a couple of hundred bonehead idiots than the over 3000 active terrorists that the security services are monitoring. No. In my world if I am arguing about what I think are the wrongs in far right political party in a European country I don't expect the response to be. ' But you support terrorists.' If your defence to me pointing out the rise in fascistic attitudes is terrorist supporter or Communist then it really shows there is no counter argument. It also suggests that you actually quite like the fact there are more hate crimes and far right parties gaining traction across Europe. For ex military that is an obscene attitude to have considering the lives given to stop fascism by any means necessary.
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nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 7.55pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
You said 'by any means necessary'. Do you really mean 'by any means necessary apart from concentration camps'? I am going on about communists because they are as ruthless in their 'means' as fascists are. Both use phrases like 'by any means necessary'. Stop being a pillock
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elgrande bedford 17 Oct 17 8.10pm | |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
No. In my world if I am arguing about what I think are the wrongs in far right political party in a European country I don't expect the response to be. ' But you support terrorists.' If your defence to me pointing out the rise in fascistic attitudes is terrorist supporter or Communist then it really shows there is no counter argument. It also suggests that you actually quite like the fact there are more hate crimes and far right parties gaining traction across Europe. For ex military that is an obscene attitude to have considering the lives given to stop fascism by any means necessary. Number one,i have never said that i like the fact " far right parties" have gained momentum.
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