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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 23 2.13pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Ethnic cleansing suggests mass murder. Resettlement can be peaceful, albeit not very palatable to Palestinians. You might be happy to see yet more bitter Muslims in Europe but I doubt Jews or anyone else who puts their own kin first will agree. You are confusing ethnic cleansing with genocide. Both unacceptable but different. I not happy to see any bitter.people anywhere. What I object to is classifying people by race or religion and not by actions or intent. I don’t think the mass removal of the Palestinians to anywhere should be even considered as an acceptable solution. Putting your own family before other thoughts is a natural instinct but it doesn’t mean you ignore the needs of others or are incapable of showing them compassion.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 23 2.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
An invasion doesn’t have to be limited to conventional armies ; a Trojan Horse of daily arrivals which some see as a ‘gift’ could turn out to be anything but…rather like the Trojan Horse scenario. It’s just that it may not be obvious at this stage. Some speak as though the illegal immigration we are seeing is welcome, when it is universally regarded as not. Processing the arrivals more quickly, accepting only those with legitimate asylum claims and returning everyone else, whilst finding ways to stop the trafficking criminal gangs is desired by all. It’s unfortunately not as easy as flicking a switch. Illegal immigration is not an “idea” of anyone. It’s a burden for all.
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 16 Nov 23 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Some speak as though the illegal immigration we are seeing is welcome, when it is universally regarded as not. Processing the arrivals more quickly, accepting only those with legitimate asylum claims and returning everyone else, whilst finding ways to stop the trafficking criminal gangs is desired by all. It’s unfortunately not as easy as flicking a switch. Illegal immigration is not an “idea” of anyone. It’s a burden for all. Tell that to the 'Refugees Welcome' banner brigade who turn up at every opportunity to object.
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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 23 2.30pm | |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Arab nations won't do it because any regime that accepted resettlement....aside from the economic and housing burders.....knows it would be internally toppled for supporting Israel's actions....which they know means to take that land. None of them as going to be seen helping Israel solve a problem. Guess who they are going to ask......To be frank...The Biden administration has enabled Israel to flatten Gaza, give them five billion each year and that's not including the military supply packages. Let Biden find a way of selling taking the Palestinians to America for his 'greatest ally'.....or should I say pay cheque. But if any come here I think significant protest will be justified. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2023 12.12pm) This could be the case. It is ironic that in a wider world where hatred of others is everywhere, we in Britain have to wake up to immigrants and dim witted Leftists telling us how racist we all are. I make no apology for not wanting any more people here who do not support our way of life and are in conflict with our foreign policy. That is just self preservation. The Americans don't care what happens in Europe as long as it doesn't turn red.
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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 23 2.40pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
You are confusing ethnic cleansing with genocide. Both unacceptable but different. I not happy to see any bitter.people anywhere. What I object to is classifying people by race or religion and not by actions or intent. I don’t think the mass removal of the Palestinians to anywhere should be even considered as an acceptable solution. Putting your own family before other thoughts is a natural instinct but it doesn’t mean you ignore the needs of others or are incapable of showing them compassion. I think you will find that there is plenty of cross over with those. When you look at the atrocities that occur in this world, it must make even you be thankful that we live in a relatively civilised country. That is why I want to preserve it by keeping all those who still want to behave like heathens out.
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Stirlingsays 16 Nov 23 2.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This could be the case. It is ironic that in a wider world where hatred of others is everywhere, we in Britain have to wake up to immigrants and dim witted Leftists telling us how racist we all are. I make no apology for not wanting any more people here who do not support our way of life and are in conflict with our foreign policy. That is just self preservation. The Americans don't care what happens in Europe as long as it doesn't turn red. America is in that awkward place of not having moved on mentally from the cold war and are stuck in that postwar boomer mindset. I think both current wars could have been avoided without it. The reality of the situation is that the wider world has moved on but they haven't.....something you sometimes see around the older set. China are a significant economic power and the middle east aren't as weak as they were. The usual bullying tactics don't work as well as before....and resentments surface. The US with its alphabet/trans and 'you're a racist' liberalism doesn't have that 'friends' sitcom softpower that it had back in the nineties and before where everybody admired it....Indeed, it does all the speech and liberty restrictions that it use to lecture other countries about. It's been said for a long time but we are seeing the reality on the world stage.....the left destroy everything they touch....We just have to hope that we don't get caught in the crossfire. The adults very much didn't come back in the room. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Nov 2023 3.28pm)
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Stirlingsays 16 Nov 23 3.05pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Tell that to the 'Refugees Welcome' banner brigade who turn up at every opportunity to object. Yeah, I mean who wouldn't want another load of immigrants coming in to tell you how 'racist' you are and how really they belong here just as much as you do. Maybe Horrible Histories will do a song about how Palestinians have always been here and how Jesus is really Palestinian.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 23 3.12pm | |
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Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines
Tell that to the 'Refugees Welcome' banner brigade who turn up at every opportunity to object. What sort of opportunity are you suggesting such banners are found and who are in this “brigade”? I know there have been some instances of counter protests occurring outside hotels housing asylum seekers when they have been besieged by those opposed to such measures. Hardly a big deal, or surprising.
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 23 3.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I think you will find that there is plenty of cross over with those. When you look at the atrocities that occur in this world, it must make even you be thankful that we live in a relatively civilised country. That is why I want to preserve it by keeping all those who still want to behave like heathens out. You think we don’t all want to do that? Your problem is that you seem to think that everyone who doesn’t look like you is in that category whilst the truth is that they aren’t and that there are many here who are, whatever their ethnic background might be. Decent law abiding immigrants who are prepared to assimilate, adapt and contribute are no threat to our national security whatever their personal beliefs or skin colour might be. The issue is screening out those who are. There is no crossover between genocide and ethnic cleansing. Both might be used at the same time though. Killing all the men and moving out all the women and children has happened. Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Nov 2023 3.33pm)
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Behind Enemy Lines Sussex 16 Nov 23 4.15pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
What sort of opportunity are you suggesting such banners are found and who are in this “brigade”? I know there have been some instances of counter protests occurring outside hotels housing asylum seekers when they have been besieged by those opposed to such measures. Hardly a big deal, or surprising. Wisbech, I assume that the TV reception down your way is still 625 lines and in black and white and only available when the wind is in the right direction, as there are numerous occasions reported where this 'brigade' turns up. Whether it's counter protests that you describe or the blocking of complete streets to prevent the Border Force from removing failed asylum seekers, or some of our own politicians stating the same, there are plenty of people that don't subscribe to your view that everybody is against illegal immigration. Get a more modern TV set...
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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Nov 23 5.46pm | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Edited by Wisbech Eagle (16 Nov 2023 3.33pm) Again, you talk about those that are not a problem while ignoring those who are. No one is too concerned with people who do not damage the quality of life in Britain. Britain is a totally different place than what it was 60 years ago, and most of that is not for the better. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (16 Nov 2023 5.46pm)
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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 16 Nov 23 9.03pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
You mock other people's opinions and then try to play the victim when your superiority is questioned. Don't start a fight if you can't handle a punch on the nose. Just seen this. I have never started a fight in my life. I just tell truths, which may be uncomfortable to read. When the words say more about the writer than they do about the intended target I ignore them. The one who starts every "fight" is only ever you, and was again.
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