This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
TheBigToePunt 01 Aug 23 10.07am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Badger11
I hope you are right but the reality is that if Chelsea are serious (money wise) and Olise wants to go what is the point of keeping an unhappy player. Fingers crossed would love to see a season with Eze, Olise and Franca. I think maybe we've all become too accepting of the idea that you shouldn't keep an unhappy player. I'm sure plenty have made themselves a nuisance, or downed tools when they didn't get a move they wanted but most will appreciate that the deal (including the timing) has to be right for the selling club as well as for the player. There is the small matter of the player having signed a contract to play for their current club, and their own best interests are served by playing well anyway. Olise seems like a careful career planner. He came to us because he felt he'd get regular premier league football sooner than at other clubs, and will be well aware of how little playing time the likes of Gallagher, Hudson-Odoi etc get at Chelsea. At some stage he will want to go, but he is apparently contracted until 2026,so no need to sell this summer, no matter what the player wants.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Hrolf The Ganger 01 Aug 23 10.15am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by dazza
Apparently we have opened talks with Arsenal over Balogun is what I’m being told. Hopefully I have worded this better for the moaners out there. A very ambitious signing if true. Also, very expensive. There might be competition for his services.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Aug 23 10.32am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I think maybe we've all become too accepting of the idea that you shouldn't keep an unhappy player. I'm sure plenty have made themselves a nuisance, or downed tools when they didn't get a move they wanted but most will appreciate that the deal (including the timing) has to be right for the selling club as well as for the player. There is the small matter of the player having signed a contract to play for their current club, and their own best interests are served by playing well anyway. Olise seems like a careful career planner. He came to us because he felt he'd get regular premier league football sooner than at other clubs, and will be well aware of how little playing time the likes of Gallagher, Hudson-Odoi etc get at Chelsea. At some stage he will want to go, but he is apparently contracted until 2026,so no need to sell this summer, no matter what the player wants. Never a truer word spoke, if you pardon the expression, also, don't forget, he's has a nasty injury & the fact that the 'EPL Injuries Table' gives a mid Sept return date, i think he will be out for longer, my opinion. Besides, what club in their right mind would buy an injured player? . . . . Oh, hang on.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Croydon-Trucker 01 Aug 23 10.34am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by eagleman13
Never a truer word spoke, if you pardon the expression, also, don't forget, he's has a nasty injury & the fact that the 'EPL Injuries Table' gives a mid Sept return date, i think he will be out for longer, my opinion. Besides, what club in their right mind would buy an injured player? . . . . Oh, hang on. twould be madness ,oh hang on a minute
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Mwncisee Middlesbrough 01 Aug 23 10.54am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by dazza
I’m certainly not on a pedestal, I think you all need to chill, I’m the first to accept that I get things wrong but I only pass on what I get told I don’t see that as a crime. Either read it or ignore it but I will continue to post whether it turns out to be true or not. All those that want continue moaning & whining about my posts why don’t you turn your negative energy into something positive. If it helps I will try to word my posts in a way that the majority find acceptable. Now chill & enjoy Franca & the next few weeks. Seems a bit of an overreaction to my post. He who casts the first stone etc. If you check back you will find I have and am supportive of you posting etc. Just how about you follow the rules and format members are asked to follow when posting about transfers? Each potential incoming transfer having its own thread in transfer talk so that members are able to follow what is happening without having to trawl through several pages etc.
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 01 Aug 23 11.21am | |
---|---|
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt
I think maybe we've all become too accepting of the idea that you shouldn't keep an unhappy player. I'm sure plenty have made themselves a nuisance, or downed tools when they didn't get a move they wanted but most will appreciate that the deal (including the timing) has to be right for the selling club as well as for the player. There is the small matter of the player having signed a contract to play for their current club, and their own best interests are served by playing well anyway. Olise seems like a careful career planner. He came to us because he felt he'd get regular premier league football sooner than at other clubs, and will be well aware of how little playing time the likes of Gallagher, Hudson-Odoi etc get at Chelsea. At some stage he will want to go, but he is apparently contracted until 2026,so no need to sell this summer, no matter what the player wants. I think it's fairly similar to the situation Brighton have with Caicedo. The main difference being that their player has openly stated he wants to leave. If he starts the season with them, it will be interesting to see how he performs. As to Olise, '' clubs circling '' as Roy puts it may be the case, but as you point out we are under no contractual obligation to sell. So if he did want to go, Palace should be looking at a fee similar to that Brighton are asking for Caicedo...that would certainly be more palatable that the figures the media are bandying about.
Old, Ungifted and White |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Canterbury Palace Whitstable 01 Aug 23 1.16pm | |
---|---|
Quotes from Roy in The Athletic this morning saying that Olise's future is in doubt amid the interest and that he feels as though the club have lost 5 senior players and only brought one in to replace them, so the club need to strengthen significantly before the season. Have never really heard Roy challenge the owners to pull their fingers out before which shows that even he must be a bit worried. The thing is if we sell Olise for £50-60m then other clubs are going to charge us more for replacements. We literally need to get players in quickly for a fair price and then consider selling, rather than the other way round.
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold... |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
pizzapat Caterham 01 Aug 23 1.27pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Quotes from Roy in The Athletic this morning saying that Olise's future is in doubt amid the interest and that he feels as though the club have lost 5 senior players and only brought one in to replace them, so the club need to strengthen significantly before the season. Have never really heard Roy challenge the owners to pull their fingers out before which shows that even he must be a bit worried. The thing is if we sell Olise for £50-60m then other clubs are going to charge us more for replacements. We literally need to get players in quickly for a fair price and then consider selling, rather than the other way round.
2010 decided my services were no longer required after 10 years service on the WHITEHORSE LANE FAMILY STAND #CRPS please read [Link] to find out what #CRPS is |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 01 Aug 23 1.28pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace
Quotes from Roy in The Athletic this morning saying that Olise's future is in doubt amid the interest and that he feels as though the club have lost 5 senior players and only brought one in to replace them, so the club need to strengthen significantly before the season. Have never really heard Roy challenge the owners to pull their fingers out before which shows that even he must be a bit worried. The thing is if we sell Olise for £50-60m then other clubs are going to charge us more for replacements. We literally need to get players in quickly for a fair price and then consider selling, rather than the other way round. This highlighted bit is all very well & good & TBF, most, if not all clubs, all want the same thing, BUT, there's always a but, clubs know we are going to lose Olise/Eze at some point & they are also aware we will need to replace them, so whether we buy replacements now(ish) or after they've gone, prices will still be high.
This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise. |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Rudi Hedman Caterham 01 Aug 23 1.33pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by eagleman13
This highlighted bit is all very well & good & TBF, most, if not all clubs, all want the same thing, BUT, there's always a but, clubs know we are going to lose Olise/Eze at some point & they are also aware we will need to replace them, so whether we buy replacements now(ish) or after they've gone, prices will still be high. Add in we have sought after players in about 4 positions.
COYP |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
stanzerman Hastings 01 Aug 23 1.57pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mwncisee
Seems a bit of an overreaction to my post. He who casts the first stone etc. If you check back you will find I have and am supportive of you posting etc. Just how about you follow the rules and format members are asked to follow when posting about transfers? Each potential incoming transfer having its own thread in transfer talk so that members are able to follow what is happening without having to trawl through several pages etc. We don't need to trawl through several pages etc. when we've got Dazza to do it for us. Can't understand why people are so concerned at where he gets his info from, be it twitter or anywhere else. If some of it is from an inside source only an idiot would expect him to reveal his source. I presume that he opened his own topic on here so that people who don't like his transfer posts don't have to see them. Keep on posting please Dazza
Stanzerman |
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Spiderman Horsham 01 Aug 23 2.08pm | |
---|---|
Originally posted by Mwncisee
Seems a bit of an overreaction to my post. He who casts the first stone etc. If you check back you will find I have and am supportive of you posting etc. Just how about you follow the rules and format members are asked to follow when posting about transfers? Each potential incoming transfer having its own thread in transfer talk so that members are able to follow what is happening without having to trawl through several pages etc. I may be wrong but I believe the mods have previously suggested this format for Dazza’s posts so, they would e easy to ignore for those who rubbish them
|
|
Alert a moderator to this post |
Registration is now on our new message board
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2024 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.