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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 28 May 21 9.47am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

Think they recouped a lot of that by selling Jota and Doherty

Absolutely correct but they did spend £35 Mill on teenage forward Fabio Silva and a fee up to £37 Mill for Nelson Semedo.

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 28 May 21 10.19am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Mstrobez

It seems unlikely he’d join Palace considering he doesn’t need to rush and will have bigger clubs after him eventually but he is also the joint favourite with a bookmaker. So it’s not even remotely comparable to Pochettino or Tuchel.

Agreed that Nuno is not comparable to those others, that why I said he isn't in the same bracket as them. Where he is similar is that he's out of our league. Not by the same distance as Tuchel et al, but out of our league nonetheless.

I think we need to learn from the players we have signed in the last ten years. First and foremost they have to be good enough of course. Even if they never get any better than they are the day we sign them, they still need to be able to do the job at hand.

Beyond that, if they are hungry to step up and are not being given the chance somewhere else, that can go a long way. If they are well thought of as a big club player, and just want an easier life by moving to little Palace then we won't get the best out of them.

Cooper, Frank or Ishmael could be the coaching equivalent of Bolasie, Jedinak, Delaney etc, hungry to prove themselves and willing to give everything to Palace to do it.

Nuno is fairly hot property right now and will expect bigger and better options than Palace. If he signs for us he will soon be underwhelmed at the step down he has taken, and be the equivalent of Sakho, Cabeye or Beneteke. Technically better than what we had, but without the end result to justify the expense.

Lampard or Howe would be the equivalent of that player who had a big reputation, had a lot of fuss made over them, but then hit a setback and found that not everything was rosy in the garden all the time and that the spotlight moved on very quickly. Allardyce used to seek them out when at Bolton - top-level rejects looking to prove people wrong.

I wouldn't rule out a big name whose stock is high at the moment, but my instinct is for someone with something to prove.

Edited by TheBigToePunt (28 May 2021 10.23am)

 

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Elphers40 Flag Sunny South Coast 28 May 21 10.47am Send a Private Message to Elphers40 Add Elphers40 as a friend

I agree with most that Nuno is a good manager and we’d be punching if we secured him. The thing that would concern me most about that is the likelihood that (assuming he did a good job at Palace) he’d very quickly be linked with “bigger” clubs and wouldn’t hang around for long.
That’s why I feel the others mentioned are more likely to stick around to build something and crucially (as far as I’m concerned) All of Dyche, Lampard and Cooper have a bit to prove.
Dyche - that he could do anywhere other than Burnley and play a better brand of football.
Lampard - that Chelsea were wrong not to allow him the time to bed in the new signings he brought to the club.
Cooper - that he can cut it at the top level and that he can develop the club around a different model.

As a Palace fan I hope for some loyalty from those we bring to the club - I know that is a bit of a forlorn hope these days, but there are some out there that present less of a risk in that regard.

Of course it’s also important for SP to ensure the environment is right to support the next manager and help him achieve his own realistic ambitions which hopefully tie in with ours.

 

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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 May 21 11.13am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Elphers40

I agree with most that Nuno is a good manager and we’d be punching if we secured him. The thing that would concern me most about that is the likelihood that (assuming he did a good job at Palace) he’d very quickly be linked with “bigger” clubs and wouldn’t hang around for long.

Oddly enough the only Palace manager that jumped ship for a bigger club under the present regime was Dougie Freedman.

 

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Lanzo-Ad Flag Lanzarote 28 May 21 11.23am Send a Private Message to Lanzo-Ad Add Lanzo-Ad as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Oddly enough the only Palace manager that jumped ship for a bigger club under the present regime was Dougie Freedman.

i know it wasnt the current regime, But Bruce, Coppell any more?

 


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TheBigToePunt Flag 28 May 21 11.25am Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Oddly enough the only Palace manager that jumped ship for a bigger club under the present regime was Dougie Freedman.

In fairness, Allardyce left pretending to retire when he plainly had no intention of doing so, then took the Everton job when it came up. Not quite the same as Freedman actually leaving for another club I appreciate.

 

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silvertop Flag Portishead 28 May 21 1.05pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Dowie?

 

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TheBigToePunt Flag 28 May 21 1.24pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Dowie?

ME did specify 'under the current regime' in fairness. If we remove that filter, the list of managers to dump us for someone else might be a long one.

Bassett?
Venables?

Edited by TheBigToePunt (28 May 2021 1.25pm)

 

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CT Charlie Flag 28 May 21 1.51pm Send a Private Message to CT Charlie Add CT Charlie as a friend

Based on nothing whatsoever, my hunch is that Parish & Co. may make an about-face and surprise us with a relatively unknown who's hungry to prove himself on the biggest stage. Someone relatively young who will gladly energize the club and stay for a minimum 4-5 seasons without being tempted to take on the expectations of a top club.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 21 2.02pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by CT Charlie

Based on nothing whatsoever, my hunch is that Parish & Co. may make an about-face and surprise us with a relatively unknown who's hungry to prove himself on the biggest stage. Someone relatively young who will gladly energize the club and stay for a minimum 4-5 seasons without being tempted to take on the expectations of a top club.

So it's a straight choice then Pullis or Alladyce.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 21 2.39pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Burnley want 3m compensation for Dyche, I would pay it.

 


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Midlands Eagle Flag 28 May 21 2.43pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Burnley want 3m compensation for Dyche, I would pay it.

I wonder why we would have enquired about the compensation if we weren't seriously interested

 

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