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davenotamonkey Flag 22 Mar 21 4.17pm Send a Private Message to davenotamonkey Add davenotamonkey as a friend

Here's how they reported it under Trump.

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Who built the cages? Obama. With Biden as VP.

 

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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Mar 21 5.19pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Large parts of Central and South America are a frigging....what was it that Trump called certain countries?

Of course they want to live in European civilisations.

All this demographic change was decided back in 65 (and was lied about) and it's been drip drip since then....Trump was nothing more than a very slight delay.

In the long run North America will revert back to its genetic heritage and the descendants of Europeans will have a tricky decision to make.

Assimilate, stand and fight or come back home....if it still exists as one.

Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 5.22pm)

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Mar 21 5.26pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Seriously? If you believe that please lend me £50 I'll pay you back honest.

Source 'The Lancet'.

 

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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 22 Mar 21 5.39pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Trump's American Carnage'.

Showing on PBS America (91).

A look at how Donald Trump stoked division, violence and insurrection during his presidency, investigating his siege on his enemies, the media and even the leaders of his own party.

It is quite amazing, and such a short time ago.

 

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 22 Mar 21 6.37pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Source 'The Lancet'.

And where did the Lancet get its data from the Chinese government no doubt. I am amazed how people refuse to believe anything our government say but are quite happy to believe a totalitarian state.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Mar 21 7.50pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How the US media...well western media really looks to emphasize crimes by whites while hiding crime by non whites.

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You really love the stuff put out by this guy, don't you? So many of your own arguments mimic his that it cannot be a coincidence.

For those unfamiliar with Paul Joseph Watson here is his Wiki page:- [Link]

Before you jump down my throat I know it's "only Wiki" and is written by someone who obviously has as great an admiration for his politics as I do for yours, but it contains many claims that simply cannot be wrong, no matter how you dress them up.

So how can anyone who works with the nutcase Alex Jones and has promoted many of his conspiracy theories, and has been banned from Facebook and Instagram for hate speech violations, be taken seriously?

Apparently he now identifies himself as being "part of the new right"! There seems a much more accurate description available. Self-opinionated prat does it for me.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Mar 21 8.09pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really love the stuff put out by this guy, don't you? So many of your own arguments mimic his that it cannot be a coincidence.

For those unfamiliar with Paul Joseph Watson here is his Wiki page:- [Link]

Before you jump down my throat I know it's "only Wiki" and is written by someone who obviously has as great an admiration for his politics as I do for yours, but it contains many claims that simply cannot be wrong, no matter how you dress them up.

So how can anyone who works with the nutcase Alex Jones and has promoted many of his conspiracy theories, and has been banned from Facebook and Instagram for hate speech violations, be taken seriously?

Apparently he now identifies himself as being "part of the new right"! There seems a much more accurate description available. Self-opinionated prat does it for me.

How ironic.

What 'Alex Jones' conspiracy theory has Watson promoted?

It's been noted that you had nothing....let me repeat that nothing to reply to what Watson stated in the video.

All you had was ad hominem.....The guy who regularly complains about being attacked himself.

But hypocrites gotta hypocrite I suppose.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 22 Mar 21 9.07pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You really love the stuff put out by this guy, don't you? So many of your own arguments mimic his that it cannot be a coincidence.

For those unfamiliar with Paul Joseph Watson here is his Wiki page:- [Link]

Before you jump down my throat I know it's "only Wiki" and is written by someone who obviously has as great an admiration for his politics as I do for yours, but it contains many claims that simply cannot be wrong, no matter how you dress them up.

So how can anyone who works with the nutcase Alex Jones and has promoted many of his conspiracy theories, and has been banned from Facebook and Instagram for hate speech violations, be taken seriously?

Apparently he now identifies himself as being "part of the new right"! There seems a much more accurate description available. Self-opinionated prat does it for me.

So was it a racist attack?

 

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 22 Mar 21 10.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

How ironic.

What 'Alex Jones' conspiracy theory has Watson promoted?

It's been noted that you had nothing....let me repeat that nothing to reply to what Watson stated in the video.

All you had was ad hominem.....The guy who regularly complains about being attacked himself.

But hypocrites gotta hypocrite I suppose.

What a surprise. You defend someone like Paul Joseph Watson!

Which part of this allegation do you deny "As editor-at-large of Jones' website InfoWars, he helped promote fake news[15] and advocated for 9/11, chemtrail and New World Order conspiracy theories"?

They are ALL Alex Jones conspiracy theories! He worked for Jones on his site.

Or do you deny that they are conspiracy theories?

If they are ad hominems then provide some evidence that they aren't true.

You haven't because you cannot. There is the hypocrisy.

I don't watch more than one video from anyone who has as bad a reputation as this guy. I watch one. Then if I find the reputation to be justified I won't waste any more time unless I am conducting research. I don't buy snake oil from con men like Alex Jones or take David Icke seriously either. They all wear the same cap.

You carry on referencing him though. It shows everyone pretty clearly which camp you are in.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 22 Mar 21 11.40pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

What a surprise. You defend someone like Paul Joseph Watson!

Which part of this allegation do you deny "As editor-at-large of Jones' website InfoWars, he helped promote fake news[15] and advocated for 9/11, chemtrail and New World Order conspiracy theories"?

They are ALL Alex Jones conspiracy theories! He worked for Jones on his site.

Or do you deny that they are conspiracy theories?

If they are ad hominems then provide some evidence that they aren't true.

You haven't because you cannot. There is the hypocrisy.

I don't watch more than one video from anyone who has as bad a reputation as this guy. I watch one. Then if I find the reputation to be justified I won't waste any more time unless I am conducting research. I don't buy snake oil from con men like Alex Jones or take David Icke seriously either. They all wear the same cap.

You carry on referencing him though. It shows everyone pretty clearly which camp you are in.

Why am I being asked for evidence? The person making the claim needs to prove what they say.

Here you make the fallacy claim that if I agree with someone in certain political areas that means I agree with them on others. Only the dim or liars make that claim, and while you're not dim you are certainly the latter.

Watson mainly makes videos on criticizing 'feminism, Islam, and left-wing politics' to quote his Wiki...though he obviously extends to more than that it's genuinely correct. And I'd agree with him on pretty much all of what he says on those topics. He joined UKip around the same time I did and he left it around the same time I did as well.

If he makes a video with content I think is relevant I will promote it. I know of nothing terrible that Watson has done to consider him like you do.

Let's go through these claims that Watson has advocated for, '9/11, chemtrail and New World Order conspiracy theories', but unlike you lets focus upon them objectively.

911

My position on 911 is for the most part in agreement with the official narrative. I only differ on thinking that elements in Israel's security had foreknowledge of the attack. The evidence for that was from Fox footage I saw from arrests made after the attack.

From what I know of Watson I think he was a 911 truther for a time, but has since recanted on it....I say I think this because I haven't heard him talk on it other than that.

Lots of people believe stuff about 911, it's hardly a left/right topic anyway.

Chemtrails

I have never heard Watson talk about chemtrails and besides the topic is ridiculous.


New World Order conspiracy theories

I am someone who understands how globalist elites are acting in concert to control media and politics. That's just reality.

The 'World Order' isn't a conspiracy theory it's a provable fact that isn't denied and is observable in worldwide institutions.

As for 'new' what exactly is the claim being made and what's the claim disputed here?

I will make the observation that the biggest advocate for 'blue anon' topics ranting on here about Watson is quite ironic.....and I tend to find much irony in your commentary.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 11.45pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 23 Mar 21 9.52am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why am I being asked for evidence? The person making the claim needs to prove what they say.

Here you make the fallacy claim that if I agree with someone in certain political areas that means I agree with them on others. Only the dim or liars make that claim, and while you're not dim you are certainly the latter.

Watson mainly makes videos on criticizing 'feminism, Islam, and left-wing politics' to quote his Wiki...though he obviously extends to more than that it's genuinely correct. And I'd agree with him on pretty much all of what he says on those topics. He joined UKip around the same time I did and he left it around the same time I did as well.

If he makes a video with content I think is relevant I will promote it. I know of nothing terrible that Watson has done to consider him like you do.

Let's go through these claims that Watson has advocated for, '9/11, chemtrail and New World Order conspiracy theories', but unlike you lets focus upon them objectively.

911

My position on 911 is for the most part in agreement with the official narrative. I only differ on thinking that elements in Israel's security had foreknowledge of the attack. The evidence for that was from Fox footage I saw from arrests made after the attack.

From what I know of Watson I think he was a 911 truther for a time, but has since recanted on it....I say I think this because I haven't heard him talk on it other than that.

Lots of people believe stuff about 911, it's hardly a left/right topic anyway.

Chemtrails

I have never heard Watson talk about chemtrails and besides the topic is ridiculous.


New World Order conspiracy theories

I am someone who understands how globalist elites are acting in concert to control media and politics. That's just reality.

The 'World Order' isn't a conspiracy theory it's a provable fact that isn't denied and is observable in worldwide institutions.

As for 'new' what exactly is the claim being made and what's the claim disputed here?

I will make the observation that the biggest advocate for 'blue anon' topics ranting on here about Watson is quite ironic.....and I tend to find much irony in your commentary.


Edited by Stirlingsays (22 Mar 2021 11.45pm)

I didn't draw attention to Watson's Wiki and his reputation for your benefit! I am sure you are well aware of it.

I did it so that others who might not be could judge for themselves the wisdom of using him as a source to support your own opinions.

It seems to me that to "judge people by the company they keep" is a wise approach. If I come across someone who holds ideas I find abhorrent in one area I don't trust them in others.

I would no more reference a video from Farage extolling his love of Crystal Palace than I would one from Corbyn banging on about his love of dogs. I would find ones from people I trust.

So now you defend your use of Watson's videos on the basis that you agree with his opinions on these issues. That's up to you. If you think that's wise sobeit. Other opinions are available

You clearly are, like Watson, a conspiracy theorist. You prove it with your claims about the mythical "New World Order" and that you "understand how globalist elites are acting in concert to control media and politics". That is a statement typical of the conspiracy theorist. Unsupported claims that they know something others don't. This sort of nonsense has long been a favourite source of fodder for those who like to blame others for changes they don't like.

That the world has, and is, changing is undoubtedly true. That this is all designed by an "elite" is not. There are those who recognise that new institutions are required to regulate the changing world, but this is not the same thing at all.

My own views on Trump are far from conspiracy theories. The evidence for them is there in plain sight. The fact that the right now seek to taint them as such is further evidence of just how blindly indoctrinated they have become.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 23 Mar 21 11.03am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I didn't draw attention to Watson's Wiki and his reputation for your benefit! I am sure you are well aware of it.

I did it so that others who might not be could judge for themselves the wisdom of using him as a source to support your own opinions.

It seems to me that to "judge people by the company they keep" is a wise approach. If I come across someone who holds ideas I find abhorrent in one area I don't trust them in others.

I would no more reference a video from Farage extolling his love of Crystal Palace than I would one from Corbyn banging on about his love of dogs. I would find ones from people I trust.

So now you defend your use of Watson's videos on the basis that you agree with his opinions on these issues. That's up to you. If you think that's wise sobeit. Other opinions are available

You clearly are, like Watson, a conspiracy theorist. You prove it with your claims about the mythical "New World Order" and that you "understand how globalist elites are acting in concert to control media and politics". That is a statement typical of the conspiracy theorist. Unsupported claims that they know something others don't. This sort of nonsense has long been a favourite source of fodder for those who like to blame others for changes they don't like.

That the world has, and is, changing is undoubtedly true. That this is all designed by an "elite" is not. There are those who recognise that new institutions are required to regulate the changing world, but this is not the same thing at all.

My own views on Trump are far from conspiracy theories. The evidence for them is there in plain sight. The fact that the right now seek to taint them as such is further evidence of just how blindly indoctrinated they have become.

You calling me a conspiracy theorist is quite something.

You spent years on the Trump thread spreading debunked theories over Russia-gate and stating that Trump was going to jail. I told you from the start that he wasn't and then when eventually the case closed you moved the goalposts (wait five years) making yourself look the utter dishonest individual you are.

You don't find me doing that.

Where I agree with Watson I have no issues promoting him. If people want to look into him I have no issues with that.....though of course they should understand the objectivity of whatever site they are using.

As for you suggesting that the world isn't controlled by the elites, anyone who pushes that is either a liar or wholly ignorant or uninterested in the events around them.

Edited by Stirlingsays (23 Mar 2021 11.04am)

 


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