Many 1000s absolutely love (d) the fact they could work their own hours and be their own boss.
Probably more than we hear about.
Their wages are higher typically than a paye.
Their tax is lower than a paye and their NI is lower with rebates on the tax if you have a decent accountant. (The pen is mightier than the sword)
Maybe if someone had bothered to talk about the recent suggested rise in NI payments their could have been a way of there being payments back at times like this. Unfortunatly you got everyone moaning that £6 a week would be too much and the self employed this and that. Including politicians trying to ramp up their voters. Where is he now.yup sitting in his house on £7 million quid.
Blame doesnt lie fully with the government on this.
The rainy day is here now and self employed should have saved for it. That is the point and the reality.i pay over 12k a year in tax and NI.
How many self employed earning the same or more than me do. A minimal amount would be my guess.
If the government paid 80% of their DECLARED annual tax bill I'm sure many many 1000s would still be up s*** creek without a paddle.
As tom replied a while ago. You cant have it both ways I'm afraid. Running with the hound and playing with the fox clearly isnt successful.

Good points. The herd immunity thing is complete assumption anyway, there’s no proof yet that it is actually applicable to this virus. It’s a calculated guess.

The big error was not expanding the testing further but frankly, even those countries who have locked everything down early will find all they’ve done is delayed it rather than eliminated and it will start rising again as the roll back - although that is arguably a better situation to be in than us or Italy.

Providing a working vaccine appears relatively soonish that will be enough to placate the markets and create a massive bounce. Will then take ages to be administered though - don’t think this is going to start disappearing until next summer, at the earliest

As for the economy - ‘whatever it takes, for as long as it takes’. Bud might not like the reality but the reality is more and more money will be created to prevent the alternative option, which is total social and economic collapse. 08 and Mario set the precedent and if various governments repeating his soundbite somehow surprises you I’m not sure what you thought was going to happen. What this will mean, rather obviously, is an excuse for at least another 10-15 years of ‘austerity’.

The other interesting thing is that this will accelerate automation and money going into how to reduce reliance on the human workforce - along with speeding up technological integration - as a bonus it’s letting them trial universal income on a massive scale.

Oh yes, and esports / game developers are going to do extremely well out of this.

Is that the old 'Shell' building?

I quit my job on a site in Southwark this morning, not staying in a clear germzone where people actively know they have symptoms but persist to go to work.

I had over 500 men on my job, who all had to use the same metric fingerprint system upon entering and leaving site, followed by cramming into a canteen come 7:30 like your picture shown above.

Good points. The herd immunity thing is complete assumption anyway, there’s no proof yet that it is actually applicable to this virus. It’s a calculated guess.

The big error was not expanding the testing further but frankly, even those countries who have locked everything down early will find all they’ve done is delayed it rather than eliminated and it will start rising again as the roll back - although that is arguably a better situation to be in than us or Italy.

Providing a working vaccine appears relatively soonish that will be enough to placate the markets and create a massive bounce. Will then take ages to be administered though - don’t think this is going to start disappearing until next summer, at the earliest

As for the economy - ‘whatever it takes, for as long as it takes’. Bud might not like the reality but the reality is more and more money will be created to prevent the alternative option, which is total social and economic collapse. 08 and Mario set the precedent and if various governments repeating his soundbite somehow surprises you I’m not sure what you thought was going to happen. What this will mean, rather obviously, is an excuse for at least another 10-15 years of ‘austerity’.

The other interesting thing is that this will accelerate automation and money going into how to reduce reliance on the human workforce - along with speeding up technological integration - as a bonus it’s letting them trial universal income on a massive scale.

Oh yes, and esports / game developers are going to do extremely well out of this.

Would you say the same in a time of war?

Economies recover, dead people do not.