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est1905 16 Jan 20 5.57pm | |
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Originally posted by Therealeaglestilidie
"The youngsters will break through if they are good enough as we saw with AWB" Worryingly we were apparently about to ship AWB out on loan just before Ward got injured, so we couldn't see talent when it was right under our noses. Very true however the misconception that we somewhere somehow have another AWB or Wilf Zaha lurking about in our youth set up needs to be put to bed. There is no one currently knocking on the door of the first team. As quite rightly pointed out, real competitive games for our youngsters are hard to come by but whenever they have been used in a cup game (or even a prestigious preseason friendly) to try and see what they're made of they have done average at best. Its sad to say it but I'd bet the vast majority of our current youth will end up feeding the next tier down and be solid Championship standard players. Not so bad if we make money out of it but when was the last time a Championship club paid decent money to a Prem club for one of their former academy players? Jonny Williams is an example. In the end he probably ended up costing Palace money rather than making us any. Of course these lads are human beings not meat to be traded but a youth system only works if every couple of years you can make some money from it.
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PatrickA London 16 Jan 20 6.31pm | |
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I acknowledge that Hodgson is doing a reasonable job and that he has not been properly supported with regard to resources.
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scuffy orpington 16 Jan 20 6.43pm | |
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The reality is that we don't have the matchday revenues that bigger rivals have. We will always have a ceiling on what we can achieve. The last few years have been a phenomenal time for the club and I can't help thinking people should enjoy it more! Originally posted by orpingtoneagle
I think we need to divide this up as I simply don't see the two in the same light. Roy has years of experience. He cuts his cloth to fit and has ow created a team that is dull but hard to beat. He also has them playing to the final whistle. Parish is just a clever version of SJ both saved the club but both have run out of money. SJ tried to play fast and loose with HMRC but Parish has just enough cash and nouse to keep going. But in doing so he just papers over the cracks. We just take on a few more loans sign a few old war horses on a free and flog off a bit of the family silver when we need to. I suspect yet again we will see no permanent signings and the new stand will never be built. But lots on here will tell me I am wrong and yet again marvel at the Emporers new clothes
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Painter Croydon 16 Jan 20 7.58pm | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I acknowledge that Hodgson is doing a reasonable job and that he has not been properly supported with regard to resources. The key aspect about Roy is, he knows what the strengths and capability of his players and sets up his teams accordingly. There are many ways to win a football match, not conceding is a good start.
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PatrickA London 16 Jan 20 8.17pm | |
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I’m not sure he does the strengths of all of his players.
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southnorwoodhill 16 Jan 20 8.19pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
The key aspect about Roy is, he knows what the strengths and capability of his players and sets up his teams accordingly. There are many ways to win a football match, not conceding is a good start. Dang! We'll just have to stick with Ayew then, who has managed to score more goals in half a season than Benteke has done in two. Point being he has natural instinct, finds himself in good positions, and importantly works his socks off every game. Edited by southnorwoodhill (16 Jan 2020 8.20pm)
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ex hibitionist Hastings 16 Jan 20 8.54pm | |
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Originally posted by Painter
The key aspect about Roy is, he knows what the strengths and capability of his players and sets up his teams accordingly. There are many ways to win a football match, not conceding is a good start. Tosun scored against us I remember, but I don't remember his head being on the end of his ankle, he's a fox in the box not a target man
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jeeagles 16 Jan 20 10.50pm | |
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Originally posted by NEILLO
Wouldn’t describe it as blind protection. Every manager has his faults, Hodgson included. [Wasn't aimed directly at you, but he's not working miracles on a shoe string budget like many are claiming But I will come on here and defend him against some of the more ludicrous charges - an example being your comment about him taking no interest in transfers . In my opinion, he doesn't seem to be taking charge of the situation. He's mentioned that we need players and that "Dougie and Steve are working very hard to find them". He isn't kicking up too much of a fuss because he knows big name signings or upsetting the board will get him sacked. A younger more ambitious manager might not be so risk averse The facts are that like any job, Hodgson is given objectives. Can you guess what his top priority one is ? If his methods result in his achieving that objective why on earth would he change them ? So yes, he knows how to keep us safe and how to keep his job - what would YOU do in the same situation ? As above. Roy is very risk averse. This means he will keep us safe, with dull football and not attacking until we are 1 nil down. It feels like we are aiming for mediocrity, a bit like the Trevor Francis/Peter Taylor Eras And if paying high wages should equate to league position then how do you explain Benteke’s salary; West Ham’s wage bill....I could go on. If there was a direct correlation between wage bill and results then Man Utd should be somewhat nearer the top of the league than they are I did say it was an oversimplification But by the same token, it's no surprise Man City are double champions and Norwich are bottom. Manchester United and Arsenal recently have been an example of bad management and what happens when you dont constantly strive to get better
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MKCPFC Spain/MK 16 Jan 20 11.02pm | |
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Interesting that Vincente has now seemed to iron out all his early inconsistencies if we can call them that , like kneeling down at near post too early and communication to become an excellent keeper and probably our best since Nigel . Obviously down to his natural ability but has the coaching helped ?
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ARGILE OLD GEEZER PORTIMAO 17 Jan 20 8.00am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
I acknowledge that Hodgson is doing a reasonable job and that he has not been properly supported with regard to resources. Tell me, how would you set up a team to score more goals without any strikers?
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PatrickA London 17 Jan 20 8.35am | |
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1) Hodgson could devise a way to play to support the strikers we have.
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Eaglecoops CR3 17 Jan 20 8.40am | |
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Originally posted by PatrickA
1) Hodgson could devise a way to play to support the strikers we have. Good post, couldn’t agree more.
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