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 The Dolphin  05 Jan 22 12.53pm |
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An interesting thought Stirling - one that has just made me chuckle loudly!
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| Stirlingsays 05 Jan 22 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
An interesting thought Stirling - one that has just made me chuckle loudly! Tips hat. That midget deserves a pay rise....her job sucks.
'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen) |
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| steeleye20 Croydon 05 Jan 22 1.11pm |
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After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc. The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks. Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder.
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Teddy Eagle  05 Jan 22 1.46pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc. The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks. Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder. When the American embassy was under siege in Iran In 1979 they shredded everything they could before being captured. The Iranians brought in some Persian carpet makers who put the documents back together without too much trouble.
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Jan 22 2.38pm |
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How do you know it’s a her? Not stereotyping surely, Stirly?
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| Spiderman Horsham 05 Jan 22 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc. The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks. Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder. Not when that memo could indict him! Wonder if you would be so generous if it had been a Tory PM in same circumstances?
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| steeleye20 Croydon 05 Jan 22 8.12pm |
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Her Majesty probably has a high regard for Tony B after his wise counsel over Diana's death, really he saved the day for the monarchy. Otherwise they would have skulked at Balmoral. TB an excellent PM.
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| martin2412 Living The Dream 07 Jan 22 7.54pm |
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| Stirlingsays 07 Jan 22 8.06pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
How do you know it’s a her? Not stereotyping surely, Stirly? I certainly am.
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HKOwen  Hong Kong 07 Jan 22 10.01pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
After Suez in 1956 the English and French governments destroyed the evidence, which probably explains why you don't see much newsreel etc. The cabinet secretary burnt everything in the grate at 10 Downing Street, it must have kept the place warm for weeks. Beats burning a memo, Mrs May preferred the shredder. English government?? how many moons on your planet?
Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance. |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 07 Jan 22 11.14pm |
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Originally posted by BlueJay
Tony Blair's Defence Secretary Geoff Hoon says he was told to burn secret memo that said Iraq war could be illegal - [Link] Not unusually for a piece from the agenda driven, sensationalist, Daily Mail, the headlines and first paragraphs rely on the probability that most readers won't study the detail, understand it, or even read their own piece to the end. That the advice from the AJ on the legality of us joining the Americans was complicated, mixed and borderline is well known, and was when it was given. That's nothing new. Nor, I suspect, is it so unusual in such circumstances for a "for your eyes only" communication to be expected to be destroyed after reading, to ensure it did not reach other eyes. It was my understanding at the time that Blair was trying to reign back Bush and get him to adopt another strategy. Which is why it went to the UN. It is also my belief that a secret agreement was reached between Churchill and Roosevelt when the USA joined us in WW2, that committed the UK to supporting the USA, when requested to, in its military endeavours in specific areas of mutually shared interest. Including the Middle East. If true, and it's only a hunch based on observation, then Blair was between a rock and a hard place.
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BlueJay  UK 08 Jan 22 12.22am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not unusually for a piece from the agenda driven, sensationalist, Daily Mail, the headlines and first paragraphs rely on the probability that most readers won't study the detail, understand it, or even read their own piece to the end. That the advice from the AJ on the legality of us joining the Americans was complicated, mixed and borderline is well known, and was when it was given. That's nothing new. Nor, I suspect, is it so unusual in such circumstances for a "for your eyes only" communication to be expected to be destroyed after reading, to ensure it did not reach other eyes. If true, and it's only a hunch based on observation, then Blair was between a rock and a hard place. Possibly a generous take who knows, but I hope you're right. I don't like to think that we may have been unnecessarily dragged to the forefront of such a horrible chapter in history. I don't have much time for the man myself, when push came to shove it just seemed to be all about him.
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