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 YT  Oxford 28 Dec 21 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I think that the preparation has much to do with our appalling batting too as half of the squad has only been playing 20/20 cricket recently whilst the other half haven't played any cricket at all as the warm up matches were rained off If the test team could manage to hit an average 20/20 score it would help a little.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 21 11.12am |
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Can't see Root continuing as captain myself. He's the figurehead for this team and it isn't change if he continues to lead the new one. Once this tour is over I see Stokes taking temporary leadership until a new kingpin emerges.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 28 Dec 21 11.56am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Can't see Root continuing as captain myself. He's the figurehead for this team and it isn't change if he continues to lead the new one. Once this tour is over I see Stokes taking temporary leadership until a new kingpin emerges. He surely has to step down. Clearly no one even wanted to bat. I hardly think 267 is an innings winning score, even with the pitch doctoring. England had to contrive to lose like that. Clear message 'I don't want to be here'.
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| HolmesdaleUpper Sanderstead 28 Dec 21 12.35pm |
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Clearly not working. Been coming for a while in the Test Side not just the latest fiasco. Change of Management & whilst Root is a great batsman not the most inspirational skipper he must step down.
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 21 12.42pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
He surely has to step down. Clearly no one even wanted to bat. I hardly think 267 is an innings winning score, even with the pitch doctoring. England had to contrive to lose like that. Clear message 'I don't want to be here'. There's a lot that can be said to how a team can mentally become like that....There certainly isn't a lot of Boycott out there....but then again the Boycotts aren't being forged anymore....nor Gowers for that matter. Anyway at least some are identifying the most obvious problem....that four day cricket has been sidelined. All this is so predictable you wonder how people take home the large pay packets....then again, that's precisely why....it's because they chase the money and not the actual point of English cricket in the first place. Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Dec 2021 12.44pm)
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| The Dolphin 28 Dec 21 5.13pm |
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Originally posted by HolmesdaleUpper
Clearly not working. Been coming for a while in the Test Side not just the latest fiasco. Change of Management & whilst Root is a great batsman not the most inspirational skipper he must step down. The two warm up games were rained off.
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| Dubai Eagle 28 Dec 21 5.41pm |
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Whilst I know it would never happen - if Joe Root rang the head of the selectors during the day today & told them, that's it I want to stand down as England Test Captain, who would you go for to either step up from the existing group out there or who would you fly out to take charge of the remaining 2 tests ?
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 21 5.58pm |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Whilst I know it would never happen - if Joe Root rang the head of the selectors during the day today & told them, that's it I want to stand down as England Test Captain, who would you go for to either step up from the existing group out there or who would you fly out to take charge of the remaining 2 tests ? Stokes.
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| Dubai Eagle 28 Dec 21 6.05pm |
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Stokes would certainly command the dressing room - Originally posted by Stirlingsays
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| Stirlingsays 28 Dec 21 6.09pm |
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Originally posted by Dubai Eagle
Stokes would certainly command the dressing room - Sure, but he's hardly pulling up trees as it is....perhaps it'll have the opposite effect.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 Dec 21 8.44pm |
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I'd still fancy England at home v Australia in the summer. Last time 2-2 and excellent fare it was. This Ashes series was never going to work. Reminds me of 2006 when Vaughan lost 5-0, the haste and lack of preparation, add to it the covid uncertainties must be affecting the players. The ECB, the PL and Formula 1 are not sporting organisations imo, but financial ones, for them it's the cheque book. And much maligned Root is actually our most successful captain, passed Cook some time ago and Vaughan this year.
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| ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 29 Dec 21 12.40pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
I'd still fancy England at home v Australia in the summer. Last time 2-2 and excellent fare it was. This Ashes series was never going to work. Reminds me of 2006 when Vaughan lost 5-0, the haste and lack of preparation, add to it the covid uncertainties must be affecting the players. The ECB, the PL and Formula 1 are not sporting organisations imo, but financial ones, for them it's the cheque book. And much maligned Root is actually our most successful captain, passed Cook some time ago and Vaughan this year.
Please add in FIFA, UEFA, World Rugby and the Olympic Committee.
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