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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 21 12.09pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police: [Link] A lot of people were interviewed and some did say, fairly, it was a sad thing to do to someone who has tried to help people in the country during Covid. However quite a few brought up the race angle and weren't challenged by reporters. Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism? Playing the race card has been encouraged by the media and politiians. It is one way you supress objections to the rapid replacement of the existing population and try to get the new arrivals to vote for you and buy your products.
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Originally posted by Slimey Toad

The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police:

[Link]

A lot of people were interviewed and some did say, fairly, it was a sad thing to do to someone who has tried to help people in the country during Covid. However quite a few brought up the race angle and weren't challenged by reporters.

Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism?

Playing the race card has been encouraged by the media and politiians.
It is one way you supress objections to the rapid replacement of the existing population and try to get the new arrivals to vote for you and buy your products.

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Wilesy01 Bristol 16 Jul 21 12.30pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays Why does that matter? People have numerous prejudices about many things, it's in-built. And more to the point why does one genetic prejudice matter more than other genetic prejudices? Why does something have to bring value? Value is subjective to an individual. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 11.43am) So prejudice on racial grounds is alike to prejudice against left handed people and should be treated as such? It's fine if you want to believe that (tin openers are a personal nightmare) but I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
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Wilesy01

Bristol 16 Jul 21 12.30pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Why does that matter? People have numerous prejudices about many things, it's in-built.

And more to the point why does one genetic prejudice matter more than other genetic prejudices?

Why does something have to bring value? Value is subjective to an individual.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 11.43am)

So prejudice on racial grounds is alike to prejudice against left handed people and should be treated as such?

It's fine if you want to believe that (tin openers are a personal nightmare) but I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 21 1.13pm
Originally posted by Wilesy01 So prejudice on racial grounds is alike to prejudice against left handed people and should be treated as such? It's fine if you want to believe that (tin openers are a personal nightmare) but I think you're being deliberately obtuse. You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success. You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on. But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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16 Jul 21 1.13pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

So prejudice on racial grounds is alike to prejudice against left handed people and should be treated as such?

It's fine if you want to believe that (tin openers are a personal nightmare) but I think you're being deliberately obtuse.

You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success.

You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on.

But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm)

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Pembroke Bristol 16 Jul 21 1.17pm
Originally posted by Slimey Toad The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police: [Link] A lot of people were interviewed and some did say, fairly, it was a sad thing to do to someone who has tried to help people in the country during Covid. However quite a few brought up the race angle and weren't challenged by reporters. Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism? They don't challenge because its not part of what they desire. Sections of the media reported the "going over" as racist. Murals get defaced frequently as a sign of disrespect, its part of street art, it happens. Media chose to report this as racist. Media also chose to not evidence base the numbers of racist and non racist abusive tweets directed at players. The above in some circles has now been established as a narrative. Further proof that the UK is racist. Its fake news. The fake news is disrespectful to victims of racism and the Country, which is not a racist cess pit. Racism is not being taken as seriously as it should because people are weaponizing (lying) this not because of their desire for equality, but because of their prejudices .. Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 1.26pm) Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 2.26pm)
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Pembroke

Bristol 16 Jul 21 1.17pm

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

The defacing of Rashford's mural was not racist according to the Police:

[Link]

Does this really mean criticizing a person of colour has the aroma of racism?

They don't challenge because its not part of what they desire.

Sections of the media reported the "going over" as racist. Murals get defaced frequently as a sign of disrespect, its part of street art, it happens.

Media chose to report this as racist. Media also chose to not evidence base the numbers of racist and non racist abusive tweets directed at players.

The above in some circles has now been established as a narrative. Further proof that the UK is racist.

Its fake news.

The fake news is disrespectful to victims of racism and the Country, which is not a racist cess pit. Racism is not being taken as seriously as it should because people are weaponizing (lying) this not because of their desire for equality, but because of their prejudices ..

Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 1.26pm)

Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 2.26pm)

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 21 1.35pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success. You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on. But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm) How very sinister. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 16 Jul 21 1.35pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success.

You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on.

But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm)

How very sinister.

Red and Blue Army!

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Teddy Eagle 16 Jul 21 1.39pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC How very sinister. Quite dexterous I thought.
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Teddy Eagle

16 Jul 21 1.39pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

How very sinister.

Quite dexterous I thought.

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 21 1.53pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC How very sinister. It also hangs to the left. I think I might be magnetically aligned to something. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Jul 21 1.53pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

How very sinister.

It also hangs to the left.

I think I might be magnetically aligned to something.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Matov 16 Jul 21 2.01pm
Originally posted by Pembroke They don't challenge because its not part of what they desire. Sections of the media reported the "going over" as racist. Murals get defaced frequently as a sign of disrespect, its part of street art, it happens. Media chose to report this as racist. Media also chose to not evidence base the numbers of racist and non racist abusive tweets directed at players. The above in some circles has not been established as a narrative. Further proof that the UK is racist. Its fake news. The fake news is disrespectful to victims of racism and the Country, which is not a racist cess pit. Racism is not being taken as seriously as it should because people are weaponizing (lying) this not because of their desire for equality, but because of their prejudices .. Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 1.26pm) Racism sells. People love it when they have the chance to display their own anti-racist credentials. It's the middle-class version of when the inhabitants of a council estate think there is a paedo living amongst them. That level of pitchfork bearing, torch waving hysteria. A genuine dopamine rush. I genuinely think that if there was a nationwide scheme of awarding stars, like you might see on an employee in a fast-food restaurant, for being 'anti' all the usual stuff, then it would become a glorious pissing contest as people sort to out do each other. Virtue signalling is just a form of addiction. And like all junkies, difficult to reason with the addicts. Gotta have their fix, no matter what. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.
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Matov

16 Jul 21 2.01pm

Originally posted by Pembroke

They don't challenge because its not part of what they desire.

Sections of the media reported the "going over" as racist. Murals get defaced frequently as a sign of disrespect, its part of street art, it happens.

Media chose to report this as racist. Media also chose to not evidence base the numbers of racist and non racist abusive tweets directed at players.

The above in some circles has not been established as a narrative. Further proof that the UK is racist.

Its fake news.

Edited by Pembroke (16 Jul 2021 1.26pm)

Racism sells. People love it when they have the chance to display their own anti-racist credentials. It's the middle-class version of when the inhabitants of a council estate think there is a paedo living amongst them. That level of pitchfork bearing, torch waving hysteria.

A genuine dopamine rush. I genuinely think that if there was a nationwide scheme of awarding stars, like you might see on an employee in a fast-food restaurant, for being 'anti' all the usual stuff, then it would become a glorious pissing contest as people sort to out do each other.

Virtue signalling is just a form of addiction. And like all junkies, difficult to reason with the addicts. Gotta have their fix, no matter what.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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Far away fan On the border of jungle 16 Jul 21 2.45pm
Where I live as a white man, I have had people call me names, I do not care and get on with my life, I think media with all this race issues is causing more problems, when someone says something to me not very nice about me being white I laugh it off and tell them, have you just come out of the jungle in there language, no problems as they have been rude to me, but understand this what they say to me is not rude to them, as its a different world here.
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On the border of jungle 16 Jul 21 2.45pm

Where I live as a white man, I have had people call me names, I do not care and get on with my life, I think media with all this race issues is causing more problems, when someone says something to me not very nice about me being white I laugh it off and tell them, have you just come out of the jungle in there language, no problems as they have been rude to me, but understand this what they say to me is not rude to them, as its a different world here.

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Wilesy01 Bristol 16 Jul 21 2.46pm
Originally posted by Stirlingsays You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success. You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on. But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour. Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm) None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities. If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post. Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm)
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Wilesy01

Bristol 16 Jul 21 2.46pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

You choose left handed, but you could have choosen how intelligent someone is, which is the largest single factor in someone's life success.

You could have chosen how physically attractive someone is....which is also highly significant......height for males, I could go on.

But you choose being left handed....I'm left handed as well but I struggle to think of any abuse over which hand I genetically favour.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jul 2021 1.15pm)

None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities.

If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post.

Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm)

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Stirlingsays 16 Jul 21 3.00pm
Originally posted by Wilesy01 None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities. If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post. Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm) Again, you haven't answered the question. You just make value judgements but without explaining why. I can only conclude that you don't really have an answer. Perhaps you choose to make skin colour more of a genetic discrimination over say intelligence because that's what you are told to think by your political tribe. As for short males not having being discriminated against? Are you serious? They have been discriminated against in job roles, and in female selection preferences throughout history. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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Stirlingsays

16 Jul 21 3.00pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities.

If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post.

Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm)

Again, you haven't answered the question.

You just make value judgements but without explaining why.

I can only conclude that you don't really have an answer.

Perhaps you choose to make skin colour more of a genetic discrimination over say intelligence because that's what you are told to think by your political tribe.

As for short males not having being discriminated against? Are you serious?

They have been discriminated against in job roles, and in female selection preferences throughout history.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jul 21 8.00pm
Originally posted by Wilesy01 None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities. If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post. Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm) OK, so explain why racial prejudice is different to any other. The only difference I can see is that race has value politically and commercially. You don't get too many marches for fat or short people and certainly not for the ugly. I guarantee you rhat they get more prejudice than Black people but Alex Haley didn't bother to write a book about that.
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Hrolf The Ganger

16 Jul 21 8.00pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

None of the examples you have provided stack up whatsoever to discrimination on racial grounds, unless by a lack of intelligence you mean those with learning disabilities.

If you can provide a history of which short males have been systematically discriminated against then please feel free to post.

Edited by Wilesy01 (16 Jul 2021 2.47pm)

OK, so explain why racial prejudice is different to any other.
The only difference I can see is that race has value politically and commercially.

You don't get too many marches for fat or short people and certainly not for the ugly. I guarantee you rhat they get more prejudice than Black people but Alex Haley didn't bother to write a book about that.

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