All seems to depend on where the Brexit vote from 2019 goes to.

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Tice wants the Conservatives to step aside on the basis the Reform will beat Labour if the votes go to Reform.

The voters know that Brexit was done and there are moves to get the levelling out going faster, expect a vaccination success bounce also.

Going to be close, Starmer is a seen as a Getbackinner and has a very bland start with no policies.

A Labour loss will mean very little as a lot will change before the next General Election, but the LP will see a loss as a failure of Starmer's approach post the Jew hating regime

In betting Labour and Conservatives neck and neck

Edited by HKOwen (21 Mar 2021 1.08am)

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

But what will actually change? I concede there are local issues at play as well (apparently a local Tory Mayor is going great guns with even a level of cross-party support) but the issue for Labour is that Hartlepool is a seat that should never be 'neck and neck'.

Its the equivalent of say, rural seats in Surrey suddenly becoming at risk of a Labour win.

If Labour can no longer rely on northern seats like Hartlepool it is in absolute danger of ceasing to be relevant anywhere.

It held Hartlepool in December 2019. On the back of both Brexit and (supposedly) Corybn. The two issues that made then unelectable, at least according to the 'experts'. To then lose it less than 18 months later would be an utter disaster for Labour. Oppositions that go on to form governments at the next GE do not lose by-elections. They win seats from the Government. That is how this works.

Where does it actually go from there?

As I said, I can envisage them losing it. But just the reality of us even discussing it is indicative of how deep the rot in Labour is.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

I can envisage them losing and as far as I am concerned Labour are constantly ceasing to be relevant and that's no bad thing.

If you look at the absurd policies of the SNP in terms of their woke agenda, new hate law etc, that is what the Labour party would become IMHO if let loose to make legislation. Labour is no longer the party of " the working man " whatever that means.

There is enough of a Corbyn following hunkering down and keeping quiet to form a fifth column against Starmer.

They are called the Socialist Campaign Group

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Surely you have a hilarious Chinese take away joke to go with your curry one

Whatever, no point further engaging so please have the last word

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Do people really get offended by something like this? I know they do but is it a lot of people or a small number? I can't imagine being offended by someone saying to me " oh f*** off and go eat some fish and chips". I've heard hundreds of black people take the piss out themselves for eating chicken and then I've seen a white person mention it and it's made national news. Maybe there's something I don't understand about it all.

I'm making roast beef today. The French can laugh all they like.

Red and Blue Army!