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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 27 Aug 20 7.20pm | |
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Replace them with sexy naked chicks, who aren't into Instagram and have a sense of humour. Sorry, part of my Tinder profile got copied there.
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ambrose7 Croydon 27 Aug 20 8.49pm | |
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Originally posted by eagleman13
Not quite. Q? What 'TYPE' of person do YOU want to see on the show? Ive turned your persuit of Willo around & have asked the very same Q? of you. If you're asking, whoever's got the best credentials for the job. Losing Keys and Gray was a blessing in disguise for Sky - it directly led to Gary Neville getting a chance who is an outstanding pundit and far more in tune with the modern game, as well as opportunities for Jamie Redknapp, Jamie Carragher and David Jones. I couldn't care less what race or gender those people are, or what the so-called PC brigade think of the visuals of the line up, or any of that. No-one here has any clue on Sky's reasoning for this. Even if they do want a more diverse line up, 35% of the PL is black, which wasn't the case when any of the 3 who have been sacked last had anything to do with the game. For reference: Charlie Nicholas (1995) A black panel member doesn't mean the PC brigade are being satisfied, it's probably more likely that person has a better idea of what is going on in the Premier League in 2020. The likes of Gareth Barry, David James, Kevin Phillips, Eddie Howe, Chris Hughton are far more relevant.
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Badger11 Beckenham 28 Aug 20 9.28am | |
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This made me laugh Attachment: IMG-20200828-WA0000.jpg (10.17Kb)
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Hrolf The Ganger 28 Aug 20 10.09am | |
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Originally posted by ambrose7
If you're asking, whoever's got the best credentials for the job. Losing Keys and Gray was a blessing in disguise for Sky - it directly led to Gary Neville getting a chance who is an outstanding pundit and far more in tune with the modern game, as well as opportunities for Jamie Redknapp, Jamie Carragher and David Jones. I couldn't care less what race or gender those people are, or what the so-called PC brigade think of the visuals of the line up, or any of that. No-one here has any clue on Sky's reasoning for this. Even if they do want a more diverse line up, 35% of the PL is black, which wasn't the case when any of the 3 who have been sacked last had anything to do with the game. For reference: Charlie Nicholas (1995) A black panel member doesn't mean the PC brigade are being satisfied, it's probably more likely that person has a better idea of what is going on in the Premier League in 2020. The likes of Gareth Barry, David James, Kevin Phillips, Eddie Howe, Chris Hughton are far more relevant. This isn't a question of whether anyone thinks that the above are great pundits or the colour of the panel but the real reasons for their replacement. There is a clear and undeniable directive on SSN to promote all things Black and female. This move is predictable in that sense. The other side of this is entertainment. Regardless of their abilities, the usual panel was amusing because of the humorous nature of their interplay. That has been slightly eroded by SKYs policy of having to include a token Black or Lesbian pundit, although Clinton is obviously a Palace hero and a funny guy, and it did point the way to this obvious eventuality.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Aug 20 10.17am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This isn't a question of whether anyone thinks that the above are great pundits or the colour of the panel but the real reasons for their replacement. There is a clear and undeniable directive on SSN to promote all things Black and female. This move is predictable in that sense. The other side of this is entertainment. Regardless of their abilities, the usual panel was amusing because of the humorous nature of their interplay. That has been slightly eroded by SKYs policy of having to include a token Black or Lesbian pundit, although Clinton is obviously a Palace hero and a funny guy, and it did point the way to this obvious eventuality. Which has been my over-riding message in my contributions to this debate. One can predict with a high degree of confidence the composition of the panel, now that 3 white,male, experienced and insightful pundits have been jettisoned. Good post, Mr Hrolf!
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IMpalace London 28 Aug 20 10.32am | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
This isn't a question of whether anyone thinks that the above are great pundits or the colour of the panel but the real reasons for their replacement. There is a clear and undeniable directive on SSN to promote all things Black and female. This move is predictable in that sense. The other side of this is entertainment. Regardless of their abilities, the usual panel was amusing because of the humorous nature of their interplay. That has been slightly eroded by SKYs policy of having to include a token Black or Lesbian pundit, although Clinton is obviously a Palace hero and a funny guy, and it did point the way to this obvious eventuality. That is obviously not the relevant stat for this conversation. I'd imagine at least 1/3rd, if not more premier league footballers are black. Whatever the reasoning for getting rid of them, they were all dreadful and in my view unwatchable. Hopefully they get some younger talent on there who have played the game more recently and realise that being a good football pundit doesn't just involve trying to be a lad.
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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 Aug 20 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by IMpalace
That is obviously not the relevant stat for this conversation. I'd imagine at least 1/3rd, if not more premier league footballers are black. Whatever the reasoning for getting rid of them, they were all dreadful and in my view unwatchable. Hopefully they get some younger talent on there who have played the game more recently and realise that being a good football pundit doesn't just involve trying to be a lad. I don't share these sentiments at all but HOL would be rather tedious if we all agreed with one another as part of a gargantuan 'Love-In' !
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mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 28 Aug 20 11.01am | |
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The nature of Soccer Saturday isn't to be a show for the greatest pundits. It's a fast-moving soundbite type of show that dodges around from one game to the next and requires quick reporting on what's just happened. The fact that the panel get on with each other in a relaxed way makes it more watchable than, say, a midweek League Cup version or Championship version that have panels made up of uncertain, hesitant and non-interacting individuals. The more inexperienced recent panellists have made it a harder watch, Clinton included.
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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 28 Aug 20 11.16am | |
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As with everything in this world the programme has to evolve and reinvent itself every so often. These guys have had a good run. Why should they be immune to what happens all the time in the real world.
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 20 11.20am | |
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Originally posted by IMpalace
That is obviously not the relevant stat for this conversation. I'd imagine at least 1/3rd, if not more premier league footballers are black. Whatever the reasoning for getting rid of them, they were all dreadful and in my view unwatchable. Hopefully they get some younger talent on there who have played the game more recently and realise that being a good football pundit doesn't just involve trying to be a lad. I’d wager the viewing demographic on Saturday afternoon is the age demographic of the sacked panel. Many reasons why. Home owners, paying mortgages so don’t just go out spending disposable income they probably don’t have, retired, tired after a week at work as happens more with age. Younger people are out and about whereas older blokes are at home. We’ll see what happens but advertising revenue will come into consideration if a bad decision is made. What hasn’t been mentioned yet is young people apparently don’t watch tv these days. But now they do and suddenly their wishes and desperation to make everything diverse when merit suffices, they want tv changed and personalities like Matt Le Tissier effectively cancelled because he dared to use his freedom of speech to say something about Covid and a marxist or black power political group. This is not a good way to be going. Merit should be rewarded.
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Dubai Eagle 28 Aug 20 11.22am | |
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maybe if one of them had been let go during the summer break, another one let go at Christmas & the third at the end of the season it wouldnt have created so much attention
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 28 Aug 20 11.24am | |
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Originally posted by Bexley Eagle
As with everything in this world the programme has to evolve and reinvent itself every so often. These guys have had a good run. Why should they be immune to what happens all the time in the real world. They should run two separate programmes, advertisers get 2 shows for the price of 1. See what the viewing figures say. It’ll be what the majority of the audience identifies with. I am of course joking due to the uproar and vandalism when one gets taken off air.
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