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thechaddyboy Peterborough 20 Sep 20 9.38pm
As well as the 'buy back / sell on clause' maybe write a refund clause into the contract too, if he stiffs after one season like Benteke or becomes an injury liability like Sakho we can get a full refund, we've give the scouse lot far too much in recent years, can't say it's been VFM to be honest Red & Blue since 73'
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Peterborough 20 Sep 20 9.38pm

As well as the 'buy back / sell on clause' maybe write a refund clause into the contract too, if he stiffs after one season like Benteke or becomes an injury liability like Sakho we can get a full refund, we've give the scouse lot far too much in recent years, can't say it's been VFM to be honest

Red & Blue since 73'

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the.universal 20 Sep 20 9.45pm
Let’s not get too excited. He could be the next Dominic Solanke. Vive le Roy!
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the.universal 20 Sep 20 9.45pm

Let’s not get too excited. He could be the next Dominic Solanke.

Vive le Roy!

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ger20 London 20 Sep 20 9.56pm
Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same
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London 20 Sep 20 9.56pm

Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same

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doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Sep 20 10.15pm
Originally posted by ger20 Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same [/u It's about age, future prospects/future potential worth and position. If this kid develops into a good Prem league striker we can benefit in two ways, firstly through his goals and secondly, should we want/need to sell, by his future increased value. How much profit will depend on the terms of any buy-back or sell-on clauses. Strikers tend to cost more than players in other positions for obvious reasons. As for Thiago, he's unlikely to be worth any more than £25m in any future sale because of his age (29 last April). You might ask, is AWB worth twice as much as Thiago? If so why?
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Too far from Selhurst Park 20 Sep 20 10.15pm

Originally posted by ger20

Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same

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It's about age, future prospects/future potential worth and position.

If this kid develops into a good Prem league striker we can benefit in two ways, firstly through his goals and secondly, should we want/need to sell, by his future increased value. How much profit will depend on the terms of any buy-back or sell-on clauses. Strikers tend to cost more than players in other positions for obvious reasons.

As for Thiago, he's unlikely to be worth any more than £25m in any future sale because of his age (29 last April). You might ask, is AWB worth twice as much as Thiago? If so why?

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taylors lovechild 21 Sep 20 8.59am
If we pay 20m it's because of his potential, not because he's proved he's worth that so we are taking the risk while Liverpool get instant cash. Unless the buy back is significantly higher than what Liverpool sell him to us for then it seems heavily weighted in their favour: they don't need him right now, but they don't want to risk a situation where he proves he is a top class striker and they have to pay insane sums to get him back. We on the other hand would either end up with a striker who might not prove to be worth 20m+, or he does and then we lose him with little profit. I know this is all stating the obvious, but I hope if we get him then (as others have said) the buy back is at least double what we pay for him and that we don't have an insane sell-on included in the deal. After all, if he was already a cert to be top class then Liverpool would not be selling. Edited by taylors lovechild (21 Sep 2020 8.59am)
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If we pay 20m it's because of his potential, not because he's proved he's worth that so we are taking the risk while Liverpool get instant cash. Unless the buy back is significantly higher than what Liverpool sell him to us for then it seems heavily weighted in their favour: they don't need him right now, but they don't want to risk a situation where he proves he is a top class striker and they have to pay insane sums to get him back. We on the other hand would either end up with a striker who might not prove to be worth 20m+, or he does and then we lose him with little profit.

I know this is all stating the obvious, but I hope if we get him then (as others have said) the buy back is at least double what we pay for him and that we don't have an insane sell-on included in the deal. After all, if he was already a cert to be top class then Liverpool would not be selling.

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Badger11 Beckenham 21 Sep 20 9.03am
As others have said Liverpool are trying to structure the deal so that we take all of the risk and if he develops they can buy him back on the cheap. I have no idea if he is any good but we need to tell Liverpool that as we are taking a risk on potential the money / buy back needs to reflect this. Or we go for Grant at Huddersfield. One more point
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Badger11

Beckenham 21 Sep 20 9.03am

As others have said Liverpool are trying to structure the deal so that we take all of the risk and if he develops they can buy him back on the cheap.

I have no idea if he is any good but we need to tell Liverpool that as we are taking a risk on potential the money / buy back needs to reflect this.

Or we go for Grant at Huddersfield.

One more point

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Petereagle Brockley 21 Sep 20 9.05am
Originally posted by taylors lovechild If we pay 20m it's because of his potential, not because he's proved he's worth that so we are taking the risk while Liverpool get instant cash. Unless the buy back is significantly higher than what Liverpool sell him to us for then it seems heavily weighted in their favour: they don't need him right now, but they don't want to risk a situation where he proves he is a top class striker and they have to pay insane sums to get him back. We on the other hand would either end up with a striker who might not prove to be worth 20m+, or he does and then we lose him with little profit. I know this is all stating the obvious, but I hope if we get him then (as others have said) the buy back is at least double what we pay for him and that we don't have an insane sell-on included in the deal. After all, if he was already a cert to be top class then Liverpool would not be selling. Edited by taylors lovechild (21 Sep 2020 8.59am) [Link] Palace have done really well this transfer window so far and I am confident this will continue, crossing fingers and toes!
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Petereagle

Brockley 21 Sep 20 9.05am

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Edited by taylors lovechild (21 Sep 2020 8.59am)

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Palace have done really well this transfer window so far and I am confident this will continue, crossing fingers and toes!

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SurbsEagle 21 Sep 20 9.15am
I really don't understand this one. £20m for someone who has played 26 professional games? This has to be one of the biggest risks the club has taken on a player by a long way..? Especially when you look at what £20m players other clubs are buying
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SurbsEagle

21 Sep 20 9.15am

I really don't understand this one. £20m for someone who has played 26 professional games? This has to be one of the biggest risks the club has taken on a player by a long way..? Especially when you look at what £20m players other clubs are buying

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silvertop Portishead 21 Sep 20 9.52am
Originally posted by ger20 Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same Age Liverpool stable English Proven in Chapionship England youth Striker Very good
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silvertop

Portishead 21 Sep 20 9.52am

Originally posted by ger20

Thiago Alcantra cost Liverpool £25 million how is this kid worth almost the same

Age

Liverpool stable

English

Proven in Chapionship

England youth

Striker

Very good

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silvertop Portishead 21 Sep 20 9.59am
Originally posted by SurbsEagle I really don't understand this one. £20m for someone who has played 26 professional games? This has to be one of the biggest risks the club has taken on a player by a long way..? Especially when you look at what £20m players other clubs are buying I am not saying you, but this site is full of those (not without some justification) criticising the club's buying record of old crocks discarded by bigger clubs, leaving an ageing squad who are just off pace and vulnerable to long term injury. We have now pushed X players through from our own academy, have acquired 5 from elsewhere, have bought Eze, Ferguson and may be looking to add Downes and a young CB; and now we are seeking an England youth striker to add to the depth of the squad and reduce the average age. If you include the move to a cat 1 academy, you might argue that this is the sort of risk this club has been crying out for.
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Portishead 21 Sep 20 9.59am

Originally posted by SurbsEagle

I am not saying you, but this site is full of those (not without some justification) criticising the club's buying record of old crocks discarded by bigger clubs, leaving an ageing squad who are just off pace and vulnerable to long term injury.

We have now pushed X players through from our own academy, have acquired 5 from elsewhere, have bought Eze, Ferguson and may be looking to add Downes and a young CB; and now we are seeking an England youth striker to add to the depth of the squad and reduce the average age. If you include the move to a cat 1 academy, you might argue that this is the sort of risk this club has been crying out for.

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Midlands Eagle 21 Sep 20 10.05am
Originally posted by silvertop I am not saying you, but this site is full of those (not without some justification) criticising the club's buying record of old crocks discarded by bigger clubs, leaving an ageing squad who are just off pace and vulnerable to long term injury. We have now pushed X players through from our own academy, have acquired 5 from elsewhere, have bought Eze, Ferguson and may be looking to add Downes and a young CB; and now we are seeking an England youth striker to add to the depth of the squad and reduce the average age. If you include the move to a cat 1 academy, you might argue that this is the sort of risk this club has been crying out for. I don't think that anyone is criticizing the potential purchase of this young striker but it's the likely terms of the deal that people seem to be wary of
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Originally posted by silvertop

I am not saying you, but this site is full of those (not without some justification) criticising the club's buying record of old crocks discarded by bigger clubs, leaving an ageing squad who are just off pace and vulnerable to long term injury.

I don't think that anyone is criticizing the potential purchase of this young striker but it's the likely terms of the deal that people seem to be wary of

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Bexley Eagle Bexley Kent 21 Sep 20 10.09am
Originally posted by silvertop Age Liverpool stable English Proven in Chapionship England youth Striker Very good However you could add we always end up being shafted by Liverpool in the transfer market.
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