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 YT  Oxford 17 Oct 19 3.05pm |
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Originally posted by KAOS
I get that mate ... it's assuming they're all zero hour contract workers that I'm struggling with! I took it to be exaggerated irony.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 3.08pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
That’s true. If I could find a vegan approved hair shirt and some carbon friendly ash I’d atone for such cynicism. Great idea for all you white middle class liberals and you guilty conscience "Hair Shirt by Givenchy" Guaranteed to make you feel guilty about white privelge and climate change all day. On a more serious note they could do something practical such as: Give up their air miles and start a campaign to get airlines to put more seats on planes by getting rid of first class etc. Or free water. I just got back from Andalusia they don't have public toilets or water fountains. You just pop into the nearest bar or restaurant use the toilet and ask them to fill up your water bottle. They should campaign to make it the law in this country if access was easy people would stop buying plastic bottles and I think most people would be happy with that solution. Simple and easy to implement.
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| Tom-the-eagle Croydon 17 Oct 19 3.22pm |
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Would be good to turn up outside one of these bellends homes in the morning and park my van across their drive and just stand there with my mates and some banners protesting about some sh@t. Lets see how calm they are when Mrs cant do the school run and Mr cant get to work.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 3.24pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
A bit more perspective is that he can eat as much tofu as he likes but he earns a living driving a car which averages 4 mpg. What the graphic clearly demonstrates is that in terms of environmental impact, animal agriculture dwarfs transport emissions, so to chose to champion one and not the other is a fairly reasonable position. Of course, pointing out that everyone uses electricity and has a mobile phone is far more important than any reasoned discussion though.
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| Jamesey Wandsworth 17 Oct 19 3.43pm |
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Originally posted by YT
I took it to be exaggerated irony. Thanks YT, your interpretation is the correct one.
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| YT Oxford 17 Oct 19 3.45pm |
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Originally posted by Jamesey
Thanks YT, your interpretation is the correct one. You're welcome, and I look forward to receiving that fiver you promised me.
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| YT Oxford 17 Oct 19 3.53pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
What the graphic clearly demonstrates is that in terms of environmental impact, animal agriculture dwarfs transport emissions, so to chose to champion one and not the other is a fairly reasonable position. But surely this is the point. Most people don't really give a sh!t about most things. Ergo they will carry on doing what they like (speeding, foreign holidays, leaving lights on, going to motor racing, refusing to recycle...). "The government needs to take action to encourage a change in behaviour, therefore." Fine, except in this country we have a tradition of not accepting being told what is good for us, and such an attitude is particularly prevelant among the kind of 'liberals' we see getting worked up in this situation.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 3.59pm |
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Originally posted by YT
But surely this is the point. Most people don't really give a sh!t about most things. Ergo they will carry on doing what they like (speeding, foreign holidays, leaving lights on, going to motor racing, refusing to recycle...). "The government needs to take action to encourage a change in behaviour, therefore." Fine, except in this country we have a tradition of not accepting being told what is good for us, and such an attitude is particularly prevelant among the kind of 'liberals' we see getting worked up in this situation. The whole protest is about government action, not individual action. No one is asking people to stop using electricity.
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| YT Oxford 17 Oct 19 4.07pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The whole protest is about government action, not individual action. No one is asking people to stop using electricity. So what is our government supposed to do then? These same people full of glee at the government not having a majority and therefore unable to get anything done and therefore wasting all our time with a Queen's Speech, somehow expect the same government to save the world.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 4.45pm |
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Originally posted by YT
So what is our government supposed to do then? These same people full of glee at the government not having a majority and therefore unable to get anything done and therefore wasting all our time with a Queen's Speech, somehow expect the same government to save the world. Seriously?
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| YT Oxford 17 Oct 19 4.49pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
Seriously? Yep. Tell me what this current government is supposed to do in order to "save the planet" when you've already said that it's not a question of action by individuals.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 4.51pm |
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Originally posted by YT
Yep. Tell me what this current government is supposed to do in order to "save the planet" when you've already said that it's not a question of action by individuals. Honestly if your position is ‘what can the government of the country do’ then there isn’t any point having the discussion.
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