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Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 1.27pm | |
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Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle
Do you accept that the majority of knife crime is committed by the black community. Yes or no? No, not seen the evidence and prefer not to muddy the water of the debate by making it a race issue. The 2 notable cases last weekend were not gang related It's diverting from the real point about police numbers and rise in crime Maybe you could return the favour - do you prefer less police yes or no?
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 06 Mar 19 1.41pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No, not seen the evidence and prefer not to muddy the water of the debate by making it a race issue. The 2 notable cases last weekend were not gang related It's diverting from the real point about police numbers and rise in crime Maybe you could return the favour - do you prefer less police yes or no? Not seen the evidence about the race element? Do you not read the news reports or statistics? Unless we talk about it, how can we find solutions? Again, you're not interesting in finding out about the cultural issues and ways to solve this awful problem. But instead, are using it as a stick to beat the Tories with over cutbacks because you are a radical leftist who thinks chucking tax payers' money at everything sorts it out. It doesn't. It's much more nuanced.
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dannyboy1978 06 Mar 19 1.51pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No, not seen the evidence and prefer not to muddy the water of the debate by making it a race issue. The 2 notable cases last weekend were not gang related It's diverting from the real point about police numbers and rise in crime Maybe you could return the favour - do you prefer less police yes or no? Unless you want to band around the word Gammon
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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 06 Mar 19 1.52pm | |
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Originally posted by chris123
The penalty for carrying a knife should be the same as for carrying a gun, preceded by an amnesty to get knives of the street. Knives. Every supermarket sells cooks knives. It would seem to be a cultural shift, particularly in metropolitan areas. "The year 2018 ended with 516 murders, making it the second deadliest year in the history of T&T. The year 2008 recorded the highest murder rate with 550 homicides being committed. Of the 516 murders in 2018, 430 of them remain unsolved. These statistics were disclosed by the T&T Police Service’s (TTPS) Crime and Problem Analysis (CAPA) Branch. For the period January 1 to December 27, 2018, 13 spouses (male and female) were killed in domestic violence-related matters. There were 13 children killed, six of which were classified as gang-related; three were domestic-violence related; one was drug-related; one child was killed during an altercation; two remain unclassified. Forty-seven females were killed in 2018—this included three girls, 40 women, and four others whose ages are unknown. With respect to law enforcement personnel, six of them were killed—two police officers, one soldier, and three prison officers. Meanwhile, police said there were 179 gang-related murders." So gang violence seems to be the crux in other countries, under differing political systems. Who knows how to improve things ?
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steeleye20 Croydon 06 Mar 19 1.56pm | |
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Originally posted by Penge Eagle
Not seen the evidence about the race element? Do you not read the news reports or statistics? Unless we talk about it, how can we find solutions? Again, you're not interesting in finding out about the cultural issues and ways to solve this awful problem. But instead, are using it as a stick to beat the Tories with over cutbacks because you are a radical leftist who thinks chucking tax payers' money at everything sorts it out. It doesn't. It's much more nuanced. No it isn't, austerity has no benefits, the police service is not the only service to be partially removed, think of all the other community services, many integrated, that have suffered. We are poorer as a result as anyone can see.
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Hrolf The Ganger 06 Mar 19 2.20pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No the commissioner of police is saying that I have already said that the police will never be content with numbers and funding. Naive or just disingenuous? You are only peddling this garbage for political reasons.
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elgrande bedford 06 Mar 19 2.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
No, not seen the evidence and prefer not to muddy the water of the debate by making it a race issue. The 2 notable cases last weekend were not gang related It's diverting from the real point about police numbers and rise in crime Maybe you could return the favour - do you prefer less police yes or no? You do know Tom the eagle is mixed race don't you. You should listen to him he talks more sense than you ever could.
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Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 3.07pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I have already said that the police will never be content with numbers and funding. Naive or just disingenuous? You are only peddling this garbage for political reasons. Okay, since you know more about policing than the commissioner of police please explain how less how less police decreases crime in light of the fact the opposite is happening?
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Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Mar 19 3.23pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
Okay, since you know more about policing than the commissioner of police please explain how less how less police decreases crime in light of the fact the opposite is happening? Even the BBC have said it isn’t a definite correlation.
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Pussay Patrol 06 Mar 19 3.47pm | |
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Even the BBC have said it isn’t a definite correlation. A BBC journalist knows more about the police than the commisioner?
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Penge Eagle Beckenham 06 Mar 19 3.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
A BBC journalist knows more about the police than the commisioner? You don't get it. Every company boss wants more staff. Every Army chief wants more troops. Every NHS boss wants more nurses. Every school wants more teachers. The above three costs money to the taxpayer. Will it help having more cops? I'm sure it won't do any harm. But it won't solve a much deeper issue. As a leftist I know you worship government, but when will you realise that government cannot solve all problems? Edited by Penge Eagle (06 Mar 2019 3.56pm)
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W12 06 Mar 19 4.26pm | |
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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol
I wouldn't trust either of them. I agree we need more Police on the streets. It's about the only thing we agree on. You can't just keep saying this will solve the problem in itself though. People have to believe that carrying a knife and stabbing each other is not an acceptable way to behave in a disagreement.
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