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mattteo 10 May 19 11.01am
Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland. Then again, I must admit I kind of like that McBurnie has a good price for quality. For me, he's up there with Tammy Abraham or Che Adams, but these guys are worth twice more.
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mattteo

10 May 19 11.01am

Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland.

Then again, I must admit I kind of like that McBurnie has a good price for quality.
For me, he's up there with Tammy Abraham or Che Adams, but these guys are worth twice more.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 19 11.19am
Originally posted by mattteo Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland. Then again, I must admit I kind of like that McBurnie has a good price for quality. For me, he's up there with Tammy Abraham or Che Adams, but these guys are worth twice more. What may I humbly ask is the 'Price' attached to these - players ? Is it some arbitrary figure attached to them by some sources of information which of course might bear no relation whatsoever to the price that might be demanded by respective clubs ? Have the clubs indicated a figure ? As we all know, on occasions figures can be plucked out of thin air and presented as fact. Edited by Willo (10 May 2019 11.22am)
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 19 11.19am

Originally posted by mattteo

Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland.

Then again, I must admit I kind of like that McBurnie has a good price for quality.
For me, he's up there with Tammy Abraham or Che Adams, but these guys are worth twice more.

What may I humbly ask is the 'Price' attached to these - players ? Is it some arbitrary figure attached to them by some sources of information which of course might bear no relation whatsoever to the price that might be demanded by respective clubs ? Have the clubs indicated a figure ?
As we all know, on occasions figures can be plucked out of thin air and presented as fact.

Edited by Willo (10 May 2019 11.22am)

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Bangell Oxford 10 May 19 3.25pm
Willo vs mattteo - it's the Transfer Talk showdown we've all been waiting to see
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Bangell

Oxford 10 May 19 3.25pm

Willo vs mattteo - it's the Transfer Talk showdown we've all been waiting to see

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 19 4.28pm
Originally posted by Bangell Willo vs mattteo - it's the Transfer Talk showdown we've all been waiting to see I bow down to Matteo and doff my hat in his direction for he is the master and I am the apprentice.As Ronnie Corbett said in that sketch "I know my place".
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Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 10 May 19 4.28pm

Originally posted by Bangell

Willo vs mattteo - it's the Transfer Talk showdown we've all been waiting to see

I bow down to Matteo and doff my hat in his direction for he is the master and I am the apprentice.As Ronnie Corbett said in that sketch "I know my place".

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 10 May 19 5.48pm
Originally posted by mattteo Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland. Sorloth couldn't score even if there wasn't anyone else on the pitch ... he is dreadful and hopefully, we'll never see him again at Selhurst. Send him to Blackpool beach to join the other donkeys! Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by mattteo

Yeah, but Sorloth had been awash with goals when he came too. 14 goals in 25 matched for Midtjylland.

Sorloth couldn't score even if there wasn't anyone else on the pitch ... he is dreadful and hopefully, we'll never see him again at Selhurst. Send him to Blackpool beach to join the other donkeys!

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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JohnB 11 May 19 8.49am
Saw this on BBC gossip column: Manchester United missed out on signing Ajax captain and Dutch international Matthijs de Ligt, 19, because they were told he would become too fat. (Mirror) Looks like Matteo has been scouting for Man U
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JohnB

11 May 19 8.49am

Saw this on BBC gossip column:

Manchester United missed out on signing Ajax captain and Dutch international Matthijs de Ligt, 19, because they were told he would become too fat. (Mirror)

Looks like Matteo has been scouting for Man U

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 11 May 19 10.27am
Originally posted by JohnB Saw this on BBC gossip column: Manchester United missed out on signing Ajax captain and Dutch international Matthijs de Ligt, 19, because they were told he would become too fat. (Mirror) Looks like Matteo has been scouting for Man U Didn't stop them signing Luke Shaw ! Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 11 May 19 10.27am

Originally posted by JohnB

Saw this on BBC gossip column:

Manchester United missed out on signing Ajax captain and Dutch international Matthijs de Ligt, 19, because they were told he would become too fat. (Mirror)

Looks like Matteo has been scouting for Man U

Didn't stop them signing Luke Shaw !

Old, Ungifted and White

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mattteo 12 May 19 10.39am
Originally posted by Willo I bow down to Matteo and doff my hat in his direction for he is the master and I am the apprentice.As Ronnie Corbett said in that sketch "I know my place". Well, thanks Willo, but I don't think I'm all that. We're all on this thread logical people who can have a pleasant conversation about football. About the prices, they're form last months' rumours, that Swansea would want around 5 million for him, while Tammy is valued at around 25 and Che Adams at around 15. [Link] [Link] [Link] Regarding the weight, that is a real problem. Manchester United itself was burnt with Luke Shaw and even Phil Jones. Charlie Adam was another case in the Premier League. These aren't people that we would classify as "fat" if we saw them on the street, but they could be fat for this top level of performance. And if you pay 80 million for a player and he can only compete at the highest level for 2 years instead of 5, then it's a bad deal and you gave to be careful especially with 18-year-olds who are still developing. However, I see no indication that de Ligt has a tendency to gain weight, he is all fibre.
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mattteo

12 May 19 10.39am

Originally posted by Willo

I bow down to Matteo and doff my hat in his direction for he is the master and I am the apprentice.As Ronnie Corbett said in that sketch "I know my place".

Well, thanks Willo, but I don't think I'm all that. We're all on this thread logical people who can have a pleasant conversation about football.

About the prices, they're form last months' rumours, that Swansea would want around 5 million for him, while Tammy is valued at around 25 and Che Adams at around 15.

[Link]

Regarding the weight, that is a real problem. Manchester United itself was burnt with Luke Shaw and even Phil Jones. Charlie Adam was another case in the Premier League.

These aren't people that we would classify as "fat" if we saw them on the street, but they could be fat for this top level of performance. And if you pay 80 million for a player and he can only compete at the highest level for 2 years instead of 5, then it's a bad deal and you gave to be careful especially with 18-year-olds who are still developing.

However, I see no indication that de Ligt has a tendency to gain weight, he is all fibre.

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Spiderman Horsham 12 May 19 9.23pm
Originally posted by mattteo Well, thanks Willo, but I don't think I'm all that. We're all on this thread logical people who can have a pleasant conversation about football. About the prices, they're form last months' rumours, that Swansea would want around 5 million for him, while Tammy is valued at around 25 and Che Adams at around 15. [Link] [Link] [Link] Regarding the weight, that is a real problem. Manchester United itself was burnt with Luke Shaw and even Phil Jones. Charlie Adam was another case in the Premier League. These aren't people that we would classify as "fat" if we saw them on the street, but they could be fat for this top level of performance. And if you pay 80 million for a player and he can only compete at the highest level for 2 years instead of 5, then it's a bad deal and you gave to be careful especially with 18-year-olds who are still developing. However, I see no indication that de Ligt has a tendency to gain weight, he is all fibre. Just been voted their Players Player of the Year. Charlie Adam fat!! wow
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Spiderman

Horsham 12 May 19 9.23pm

Originally posted by mattteo

Well, thanks Willo, but I don't think I'm all that. We're all on this thread logical people who can have a pleasant conversation about football.

About the prices, they're form last months' rumours, that Swansea would want around 5 million for him, while Tammy is valued at around 25 and Che Adams at around 15.

[Link]

Regarding the weight, that is a real problem. Manchester United itself was burnt with Luke Shaw and even Phil Jones. Charlie Adam was another case in the Premier League.

However, I see no indication that de Ligt has a tendency to gain weight, he is all fibre.

Just been voted their Players Player of the Year. Charlie Adam fat!! wow

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DANGERCLOSE London 13 May 19 9.50am
The way he played yesterday he would be a great signing [Link]
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DANGERCLOSE

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The way he played yesterday he would be a great signing

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dg1937 14 May 19 2.03pm
Now that the dust has settled my hopes for the summer would be: 1) To keep all the key members of the current squad; particularly Wilf and AWB; 2) a striker who knows where the goal is and is capable of putting the ball into it. Batshuayi would fit the bill although, for me, he doesn't contribute enough outside the box; 3) a creative midfielder, Grealish or someone in that mould; 4) a left back to put pressure on PVA, preferably one who knows how to defend. That would make me very happy but I doubt much, if any, of it will happen. I predict we will actually sign Sakho and Ayew! Goalkeepers: I don't see this as a priority, Guiata and Hennessey as No.1 and 2 with the the young Brazilian as No.3. Butland is good but I don't see this as a priority. Back four: apart from cover at LB I think we are OK and I suspect Schlupp will actually be the player who covers PVA. Offload Jach if possible, if not then loan him out again. Central midfield: I think we are fairly well served here but could do with a more creative upgrade on McArthur (who I see as a very good squad player), ideally Grealish. Wide players: Wilf and Andros if we can keep them. I won't be surprised to see Ayew and Sakho as the cover in these positions. Strikers: whether we like it or not we are stuck with Benteke and Wickham due to the wages they are on. If we can't find a buyer for Sorloth then I think he should be loaned out again in the hope that he will be ready to become a member of our squad once Benteke and Wickham are out of contract but I'm not optimistic that he will ever be good enough. Whether Chelsea will release Batshuayi is a moot point and I doubt we could afford him, a season long loan might be the best we could hope for. Youngsters: I think it's unlikely any will make the breakthrough but Dreher, Kirby and Flanagan look the best three bets for the future from what I've seen. My 'summer resolution' is not to allow any of the rumours to get me too up (or down).
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dg1937

14 May 19 2.03pm

Now that the dust has settled my hopes for the summer would be:

1) To keep all the key members of the current squad; particularly Wilf and AWB;

2) a striker who knows where the goal is and is capable of putting the ball into it. Batshuayi would fit the bill although, for me, he doesn't contribute enough outside the box;

3) a creative midfielder, Grealish or someone in that mould;

4) a left back to put pressure on PVA, preferably one who knows how to defend.

That would make me very happy but I doubt much, if any, of it will happen.

I predict we will actually sign Sakho and Ayew!

Goalkeepers: I don't see this as a priority, Guiata and Hennessey as No.1 and 2 with the the young Brazilian as No.3. Butland is good but I don't see this as a priority.

Back four: apart from cover at LB I think we are OK and I suspect Schlupp will actually be the player who covers PVA. Offload Jach if possible, if not then loan him out again.

Central midfield: I think we are fairly well served here but could do with a more creative upgrade on McArthur (who I see as a very good squad player), ideally Grealish.

Wide players: Wilf and Andros if we can keep them. I won't be surprised to see Ayew and Sakho as the cover in these positions.

Strikers: whether we like it or not we are stuck with Benteke and Wickham due to the wages they are on. If we can't find a buyer for Sorloth then I think he should be loaned out again in the hope that he will be ready to become a member of our squad once Benteke and Wickham are out of contract but I'm not optimistic that he will ever be good enough. Whether Chelsea will release Batshuayi is a moot point and I doubt we could afford him, a season long loan might be the best we could hope for.

Youngsters: I think it's unlikely any will make the breakthrough but Dreher, Kirby and Flanagan look the best three bets for the future from what I've seen.

My 'summer resolution' is not to allow any of the rumours to get me too up (or down).

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eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 14 May 19 5.01pm
Originally posted by dg1937 Now that the dust has settled my hopes for the summer would be: 1) To keep all the key members of the current squad; particularly Wilf and AWB; 2) a striker who knows where the goal is and is capable of putting the ball into it. Batshuayi would fit the bill although, for me, he doesn't contribute enough outside the box; 3) a creative midfielder, Grealish or someone in that mould; 4) a left back to put pressure on PVA, preferably one who knows how to defend. That would make me very happy but I doubt much, if any, of it will happen. I predict we will actually sign Sakho and Ayew! Goalkeepers: I don't see this as a priority, Guiata and Hennessey as No.1 and 2 with the the young Brazilian as No.3. Butland is good but I don't see this as a priority. Back four: apart from cover at LB I think we are OK and I suspect Schlupp will actually be the player who covers PVA. Offload Jach if possible, if not then loan him out again. Central midfield: I think we are fairly well served here but could do with a more creative upgrade on McArthur (who I see as a very good squad player), ideally Grealish. Wide players: Wilf and Andros if we can keep them. I won't be surprised to see Ayew and Sakho as the cover in these positions. Strikers: whether we like it or not we are stuck with Benteke and Wickham due to the wages they are on. If we can't find a buyer for Sorloth then I think he should be loaned out again in the hope that he will be ready to become a member of our squad once Benteke and Wickham are out of contract but I'm not optimistic that he will ever be good enough. Whether Chelsea will release Batshuayi is a moot point and I doubt we could afford him, a season long loan might be the best we could hope for. Youngsters: I think it's unlikely any will make the breakthrough but Dreher, Kirby and Flanagan look the best three bets for the future from what I've seen. My 'summer resolution' is not to allow any of the rumours to get me too up (or down). Re your point No 2, you have(imo) contradicted yourself, do you want a striker who knows where the net(goal) is, OR do you want a striker that fart arses around outside the box? Secondly, we've already signed Sahko This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.
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eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 14 May 19 5.01pm

Originally posted by dg1937

Now that the dust has settled my hopes for the summer would be:

1) To keep all the key members of the current squad; particularly Wilf and AWB;

2) a striker who knows where the goal is and is capable of putting the ball into it. Batshuayi would fit the bill although, for me, he doesn't contribute enough outside the box;

3) a creative midfielder, Grealish or someone in that mould;

4) a left back to put pressure on PVA, preferably one who knows how to defend.

That would make me very happy but I doubt much, if any, of it will happen.

I predict we will actually sign Sakho and Ayew!

Goalkeepers: I don't see this as a priority, Guiata and Hennessey as No.1 and 2 with the the young Brazilian as No.3. Butland is good but I don't see this as a priority.

Back four: apart from cover at LB I think we are OK and I suspect Schlupp will actually be the player who covers PVA. Offload Jach if possible, if not then loan him out again.

Central midfield: I think we are fairly well served here but could do with a more creative upgrade on McArthur (who I see as a very good squad player), ideally Grealish.

Wide players: Wilf and Andros if we can keep them. I won't be surprised to see Ayew and Sakho as the cover in these positions.

Youngsters: I think it's unlikely any will make the breakthrough but Dreher, Kirby and Flanagan look the best three bets for the future from what I've seen.

My 'summer resolution' is not to allow any of the rumours to get me too up (or down).

Re your point No 2, you have(imo) contradicted yourself, do you want a striker who knows where the net(goal) is, OR do you want a striker that fart arses around outside the box?

Secondly, we've already signed Sahko

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

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