No I can't see it, so maybe explain it better. Don't worry we can still be friends.

I agree with you that QE ultimately helps the "rich". However, that is just one sector of the economy and lots of middle class people have investments in the stock market too.

To back up your point, we also all pay wealthy landowners for having wind turbines on their acres of land through a green tax on top of our energy bills. This is not right, but I don't hate on the rich for this.

I think the original point was about the income the treasury gets from the rich – not what the rich get which is a slightly different issue and they obviously get it better all round in so may ways.

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Jul 2018 11.34pm)

Yup he's a t***

So when is it OK to believe in socialist principles? If you’re not rich it’s the ‘politics of envy’ and if you do have a bit of cash then you’re a ‘champagne socialist’.

It comes back to what I was saying before about pigeon holing, like you can only be one type or another, if you earn above a certain threshold you are a middle class Tory, you only care about feathering your own bed and could never have empathy with low earners. I'm afraid people on here still believe in the class divide and fall back on lazy stereotyping to further their argument.

Lets take another example: Mark Steel. He surely earns well above the average with his comedy work and TV appearances, therefore he is now a sniveling Tory boy and any left wing principles he ever had are meaningless

Edited by Pussay Patrol (03 Jul 2018 9.04am)

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Len McCluskey is on a 6 figure salary and lives in a £700,000 London flat

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