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Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 16 Jun 18 12.27pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

From my dim memory of school I thought Bills had a first reading, 2nd reading committee stage and then a 3rd reading (not necessarily in that order). The bill then goes to the Lords for further scrutiny before Royal Assent.

TV likes to show the clashes between the party bigwigs but actually most of the real scrutiny is in the committee stage.

If this bill is following that path then there should be ample opportunity for MP's to discuss, review and revise. So this is rather a hollow gesture by this MP.

I believe that Private Members' Bills don't follow that path. Therefore, not a hollow gesture. It's a Bill with serious consequences for offenders so it's right that it should be subject to greater scrutiny.

 


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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 16 Jun 18 12.40pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

anybody who has the train of thought that deems it acceptable to take these photos should be on the register for sure.

wrongun, regardless of age.

 


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black eagle. Flag south croydon. 16 Jun 18 12.45pm Send a Private Message to black eagle. Add black eagle. as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

anybody who has the train of thought that deems it acceptable to take these photos should be on the register for sure.

wrongun, regardless of age.

Agreed,can't believe people do this.

Jeez

 

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braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 16 Jun 18 12.48pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by black eagle.

Agreed,can't believe people do this.

Jeez

i suppose the question to ask is...how would those thinking this is acceptable react if it happened to your teenage daughter?

 


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YT Flag Oxford 16 Jun 18 12.50pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

i suppose the question to ask is...how would those thinking this is acceptable react if it happened to your teenage daughter?

Has anyone on HOL actually said that taking candid photos up a female’s skirt is acceptable?

 


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johnno42000 Flag 16 Jun 18 12.54pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

I believe that Private Members' Bills don't follow that path. Therefore, not a hollow gesture. It's a Bill with serious consequences for offenders so it's right that it should be subject to greater scrutiny.

[Link]

Very similar.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 16 Jun 18 1.02pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

[Link]

Very similar.

Wasn't this however the last opportunity for an objection? That's how I took the BBC's article.

Hence looking at your link that's the third reading.....However, we are told that this bill 'sailed through the house' with no debate. That would be rushed legislation.

Essentially I just want to know that this bill contains common sense provisions within it.


Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Jun 2018 1.05pm)

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Jun 18 1.03pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by johnno42000

[Link]

Very similar.

Just had a quick look and a Private Members bill does seem to follow the same / similar route as government bills. I agree that they should be scrutinised and voted on not sure at what stage this bill was at.

 


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matt_himself Flag Matataland 16 Jun 18 1.10pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by YT

What are his offensive views? Are they all the views that you don't share?

Please justify his stance of Opposing free parking at hospitals for full time carers.

 


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coulsdoneagle Flag London 16 Jun 18 1.12pm Send a Private Message to coulsdoneagle Add coulsdoneagle as a friend

Up skirting should absolutely be a criminal offence. 2 years seems harsh, but anyone who does it is clearly a pervert and should be on the sex offenders register and do a bit of time at the very least.

 

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YT Flag Oxford 16 Jun 18 1.14pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by matt_himself

Please justify his stance of Opposing free parking at hospitals for full time carers.

Please justify why opposing same-sex marriage is "offensive".

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 16 Jun 18 1.14pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

A bit wordy so I edited it to the important bits.

"In principle, private members' bills follow much the same parliamentary stages as any other bill. In practice, the procedural barriers to passage are much greater.

Any bill not debated may receive second reading without debate at the end of the session, but a single shout of "object!" will delay consideration to a future date; Government and opposition whips routinely block contentious private members' bills in this way. Another date for second reading will also be set for bills which have been talked out. This is a formality; the bill will be put to the bottom of the order paper, will likely be objected to on each future occasion and has no practical chance of success.

Even if second reading is passed, a bill is likely to need the support of the government to become law. The bill will be referred to standing committee, which may make amendments. The amended version of the bill will then return to the Commons. To become law, it must also successfully negotiate report stage and third reading, as well as the House of Lords. Contentious bills are likely to run out of parliamentary time unless the government allocates some; any pending private members' bills lapse at the end of each parliamentary session.

 


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