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 Willo  South coast - west of Brighton. 28 May 18 5.47pm |
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This is just I have just read : "On the outfield before play began, the pakistan fielding practice was intense and their bowlers collectively steamed in. England played football. This is an area where coach Trevor Bayliss must take responsibility" Maybe at 'Selhurst Park' we will warm up with a bat, ball and wickets !
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chateauferret  28 May 18 6.35pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
This is just I have just read : "On the outfield before play began, the pakistan fielding practice was intense and their bowlers collectively steamed in. England played football. This is an area where coach Trevor Bayliss must take responsibility" Maybe at 'Selhurst Park' we will warm up with a bat, ball and wickets !
I wonder whether the England football team will be playing football at the World Cup or produce the same s***e as last time. Perhaps the two outfits should simply swap jobs. Edited by chateauferret (28 May 2018 6.36pm)
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 28 May 18 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by chateauferret
I wonder whether the England football team will be playing football at the World Cup or produce the same s***e as last time. Perhaps the two outfits should simply swap jobs. Edited by chateauferret (28 May 2018 6.36pm) The football team will be a load of old 'Bails'.
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| YT Oxford 28 May 18 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by Pete53
I think I am right in saying that the last season of terrestrial coverage of test cricket was 2005. That was the year of the wonderful Ashes series which caught the imagination of not just cricket fans but the general public. What a great advert for the game that was and what a waste of an opportunity it was to build on that interest - instead the sport was by flogged off to the highest bidder. It may have have seemed to make financial sense at the time, but ultimately I believe it has marginalised the game. I believe you are right in saying that 2005 was the last live test cricket on terrestrial free-to-air TV. My recollection is that even that season was ‘odd’ in that the early test or maybe tests were on Sky before C4 took over the live coverage theresfter (or maybe it was shared coverage for the later tests?). Can anyone else remember this - or did I dream it? Anyway “the best series ever” followed by live cricket exclusively on subscription TV thereafter. Smart move; not!!
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| steeleye20 Croydon 28 May 18 10.46pm |
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The England coach, who has been doing a good job for his country Australia, should be replaced, preferably by a Russian as we can then blame him win or lose. He couldn't resist a smile could he, 'they will be embarrassed' not by his coaching then. Watching funeral processions is not a good way to pick up the team, but its better than the Monaco Grand Prix which the team watched repeatedly next day before 5 a side football. In all the years of Grand Prix it has never occurred to the F1 planners that there is actually nowhere on the circuit that you can overtake. Cricket is far more exciting, particularly if you enjoy the nudge to third man. No matter how often the nudges occur, the opposing captain will not put anybody there. 4 runs a nudge cool...... If they do the impossible and put someone there, just nudge it slowly there is still 2 to be had. I know you are wondering if I have coached at Test level, and I have. From behind the sofa I masterminded the Ashes win in 2005.
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| Stuk Top half 29 May 18 11.43am |
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Originally posted by Pete53
I think I am right in saying that the last season of terrestrial coverage of test cricket was 2005. That was the year of the wonderful Ashes series which caught the imagination of not just cricket fans but the general public. What a great advert for the game that was and what a waste of an opportunity it was to build on that interest - instead the sport was by flogged off to the highest bidder. It may have have seemed to make financial sense at the time, but ultimately I believe it has marginalised the game. The rights were sold to Sky a year before that series even started. The argument against sports rights being sold to anyone other than terrestrial TV, in any sport, is so dull.
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| Stuk Top half 29 May 18 11.46am |
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Originally posted by YT
I believe you are right in saying that 2005 was the last live test cricket on terrestrial free-to-air TV. My recollection is that even that season was ‘odd’ in that the early test or maybe tests were on Sky before C4 took over the live coverage theresfter (or maybe it was shared coverage for the later tests?). Can anyone else remember this - or did I dream it? Anyway “the best series ever” followed by live cricket exclusively on subscription TV thereafter. Smart move; not!! When C4 had the test rights Sky would show 1 test per year exclusively, and also all of the ODIs. When C4 rebid for the rights post 2005, they offered exactly the same amount as they were already paying, so it's no wonder they lost out.
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| Stuk Top half 29 May 18 11.50am |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The England coach, who has been doing a good job for his country Australia, should be replaced, preferably by a Russian as we can then blame him win or lose. He couldn't resist a smile could he, 'they will be embarrassed' not by his coaching then. Watching funeral processions is not a good way to pick up the team, but its better than the Monaco Grand Prix which the team watched repeatedly next day before 5 a side football. In all the years of Grand Prix it has never occurred to the F1 planners that there is actually nowhere on the circuit that you can overtake. Cricket is far more exciting, particularly if you enjoy the nudge to third man. No matter how often the nudges occur, the opposing captain will not put anybody there. 4 runs a nudge cool...... If they do the impossible and put someone there, just nudge it slowly there is still 2 to be had. I know you are wondering if I have coached at Test level, and I have. From behind the sofa I masterminded the Ashes win in 2005. Nowhere easy, but the course was designed 20 years before F1 even commenced.
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| Pete53 Hassocks 29 May 18 10.56pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
The rights were sold to Sky a year before that series even started. The argument against sports rights being sold to anyone other than terrestrial TV, in any sport, is so dull. Huge apologies for being dull, but I am in no way suggesting that terrestrial TV should have sole rights to televising sports. However, I don't believe it has done cricket any favours by taking test cricket away from terrestrial channels. A sport like football with its huge following doesn't suffer by having the Premier League on Sky/BT. And, anyway, we can still see Internationals and cup matches live on BBC/ITV. Cricket, however, doesn't have the same mass appeal. By removing test cricket, the pinnacle of the sport, from the terrestrial channels has further removed the game from the general public's consciousness, and diminished the sense of its importance. I got into cricket in the 1970s when as a student I had a lot of spare time on my hands in the summer. I started watching the 1975 Ashes series and became engrossed. The potential for that happening now has been reduced and taken away a platform for bringing in new fans.
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| Stuk Top half 31 May 18 12.46pm |
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Originally posted by Pete53
Huge apologies for being dull, but I am in no way suggesting that terrestrial TV should have sole rights to televising sports. However, I don't believe it has done cricket any favours by taking test cricket away from terrestrial channels. A sport like football with its huge following doesn't suffer by having the Premier League on Sky/BT. And, anyway, we can still see Internationals and cup matches live on BBC/ITV. Cricket, however, doesn't have the same mass appeal. By removing test cricket, the pinnacle of the sport, from the terrestrial channels has further removed the game from the general public's consciousness, and diminished the sense of its importance. I got into cricket in the 1970s when as a student I had a lot of spare time on my hands in the summer. I started watching the 1975 Ashes series and became engrossed. The potential for that happening now has been reduced and taken away a platform for bringing in new fans. Not aimed at you specifically but if you read any article on BBC sport that is open for comments about half of them are people moaning that all sport should be on terrestrial, or just moaning irrationally about Sky (whether they have the rights to that sport or not). Every single test match still has highlights on free to air TV and with kids now watching less TV than the previous generations I don't think you'd get that many that would want to sit down and watch 6 hours of live play, day after day. You, like I, had a diminished number of choices hence the reason why the cricket got watched over the rubbish served up on the other 2 or 3 channels.
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| Stuk Top half 01 Jun 18 1.59pm |
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Bit better today. Lost the toss but currently have them 78-6.
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| Stuk Top half 01 Jun 18 2.02pm |
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Should have been 78-7 but Root has dived across Malan in the slips and an easy one goes begging.
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