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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 10.15pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Really? Perhaps we should just let your hypocrisy speak for itself. Where exactly is the hypocrisy in enlightening another, in debate, about where an aspect of Britain that get up their nose had its nascence? All I write here is merely political historical truth. If you can show that the left are indeed responsible and signed on the dotted line for globalisation, mass immigration. banking deregulation and the selling of social housing stock without replenishment then go for it.
Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 10.19pm)
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cryrst The garden of England 13 Nov 17 10.18pm | |
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Originally posted by simlaboy
Worried by an unpicked harvest but not by exploited people who harvest it, Exploited by whom?
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 10.25pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
No. Incorrect again. The Tories signed the permission slip. Labour were obliged to enact it by 2011. Last years net migration stats - 248,000 in 2016 under a Tory Government. Total in 2009 under Labour 196,000. That is just spin. Labour foolishly set it in motion by the admission of one of their own leaders. They could have chosen not to. That is the key point. And your stats are highly selective. Seven of the ten highest net immigration years have been under Labour.
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Kermit8 Hevon 13 Nov 17 10.32pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That is just spin. Labour foolishly set it in motion by the admission of one of their own leaders. They could have chosen not to. That is the key point. And your stats are highly selective. Seven of the ten highest net immigration years have been under Labour. And which party has the no.1 slot in that top 10? It's not Labour, is it?
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 10.55pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
And which party has the no.1 slot in that top 10? It's not Labour, is it? Only the Tory party have legislated to curtail immigration. The Labour party have done the opposite. This is exactly the opposite of what you implied.
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Hrolf The Ganger 13 Nov 17 10.58pm | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Where exactly is the hypocrisy in enlightening another, in debate, about where an aspect of Britain that get up their nose had its nascence? All I write here is merely political historical truth. If you can show that the left are indeed responsible and signed on the dotted line for globalisation, mass immigration. banking deregulation and the selling of social housing stock without replenishment then go for it.
Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 10.19pm) All you have done is select things that appear to support your false argument. It is just a list of half truths.
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hedgehog50 Croydon 14 Nov 17 8.02am | |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Where exactly is the hypocrisy in enlightening another, in debate, about where an aspect of Britain that get up their nose had its nascence? All I write here is merely political historical truth. If you can show that the left are indeed responsible and signed on the dotted line for globalisation, mass immigration. banking deregulation and the selling of social housing stock without replenishment then go for it. Edited by Kermit8 (13 Nov 2017 10.19pm) I see, you are just 'educating' us are you? As Stalin said: "Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed." Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Nov 2017 8.22am)
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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 14 Nov 17 10.41am | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I see, you are just 'educating' us are you? As Stalin said: "Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed." Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Nov 2017 8.22am) Drops microphone and leaves stage.
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Lyons550 Shirley 14 Nov 17 10.45am | |
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Kermit8 Hevon 14 Nov 17 11.39am | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
I see, you are just 'educating' us are you? As Stalin said: "Education is a weapon whose effects depend on who holds it in his hands and at whom it is aimed." Edited by hedgehog50 (14 Nov 2017 8.22am) Whatever you say - and you have said a lot there - it doesn't dismiss the fact that in all that we are discussing, the housing, banks, immigration, foreign companies taking over here(globalisation), etc, it was The Conservative Party that as 'Generals' issued and signed the initial orders which fundamentally enabled and enacted all of the above - and it was the Labour Party as subservient 'Sergeants' who did pretty much nothing to halt it in its tracks. And here we are...
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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Nov 17 12.01pm | |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
None of those factors has any bearing except culture. Culture includes religion, lawlessness and attitudes to others. Things are not rosy in that department. To keep pretending they are is promoting unreality. Of course people interact in the course of daily life. They have to. What you really mean is that the law and the fascism of corporations and media have made it almost impossible for many people to say what they realy think. As far as voting is concerned. No one actually believes that a party other than Tory or Labour can win in a general election. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (13 Nov 2017 6.02pm) What some people apparently think. I don't seem to have a problem, nor do most people it seems. So how do you explain the success of UKIP at the previous election, if voting habits are defined by the Labour / Conservative only scenario. Or the rise of the Liberal Democrats from the Liberals and SDP through the 80s. Also, calling groups fascists, is a bit of a low point, reminds me of the tugheads on the left who call Conservatives and UKIP fascists. Sometimes, yeah it might be that 'everyone is out to get you', but its usually the case that you just hold unpopular opinions, that people disagree with. Entertainment media appeals to a market - and I think that the increasing level of liberal issues in the media tend to reflect and increasingly liberal society (which both Labour and the Conservative government have moved towards courting).
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jamiemartin721 Reading 14 Nov 17 12.18pm | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Really? Perhaps we should just let your hypocrisy speak for itself. Mod warning - Last warning for sniping.
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