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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 17 10.33am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yet it was The Tories who made the (false) promise. No doubt plenty of genuine refugees in their tent cities would have got the news when it was announced thinking it was a sincere offer and no doubt again that would have given them some hope. All heart them Conservatives.

Hogwash.
The Government never specified a number.

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Edited by Willo (04 Nov 2017 10.33am)

 

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Park Road Flag 04 Nov 17 10.37am

Apparently, Japan Rejects, On Average, More Than 99% Of All Refugees, even though they have an ageing population. They Haven't Had A Terror Attack In 20+ Years.

Coincidence?

You decide

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Nov 17 10.37am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by elgrande

Maybe if they took children,not grown ups who are supposed to be children.
Wasn't there a case where the daughter was assaulted by one.
But thats by the by,my point turning it back on kermit.could look a child in the eye in a care home who has been there all his/her,and say sorry we did find you a loving family,but we gave it to someone else.....

Adoptive parents aren't forced to take a particular child so helping some more orphaned tent-dwelling kids would not necessarily be detrimental. But even getting to that point can be an extremely arduous emotional journey with many, many hurdles. I don't know what the figures are but it would be interesting to know the difference between kids up for adoption v the amount of potential adoptive parents out there.

The system in placing kids is flawed that much i do know.

 


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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Nov 17 10.40am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Hogwash.
The Government never specified a number.

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Edited by Willo (04 Nov 2017 10.33am)

They did. [Link] They have 24 months to fulfil it.

 


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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 04 Nov 17 10.41am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Congrats, from the heart and not the head....

Great. That's the way to make decisions for the nation.

Let's stretch that thinking to other situations and see how it goes.

 

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elgrande Flag bedford 04 Nov 17 10.44am Send a Private Message to elgrande Add elgrande as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Adoptive parents aren't forced to take a particular child so helping some more orphaned tent-dwelling kids would not necessarily be detrimental. But even getting to that point can be an extremely arduous emotional journey with many, many hurdles. I don't know what the figures are but it would be interesting to know the difference between kids up for adoption v the amount of potential adoptive parents out there.

The system in placing kids is flawed that much i do know.

You are still missing my point kermit,i have huge sympathy with the kids in the tents.
That is not my point,if someone is willing to take a child(hopefully) from a refugee camp,why have they not taken one of the 1000s of children here in tbe care system.
We are crying out for foster/adoptive parents here.
Think of the s*** the kids here have had to go through,sexual/physical abuse.

 


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Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 04 Nov 17 10.46am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

They did. [Link] They have 24 months to fulfil it.

The Government never specified any figure in relation to children which what this debate is all about.The Link I have provided sets this out and offers reasons as to why more children haven't been accepted to-date.

 

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 04 Nov 17 10.50am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by Park Road

Apparently, Japan Rejects, On Average, More Than 99% Of All Refugees, even though they have an ageing population. They Haven't Had A Terror Attack In 20+ Years.

Coincidence?

You decide


Wouldn't that be more to do with their own serious home terrorism problems committed by some of their own people from the 70's through to the 90's dissipating?

Also, not sure if 'Islamist' extremists would be applying for asylum all the way over in Japan? Doesn't quite fit their Jihad v The West narrative.

 


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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 04 Nov 17 11.18am

Originally posted by elgrande

You are still missing my point kermit,i have huge sympathy with the kids in the tents.
That is not my point,if someone is willing to take a child(hopefully) from a refugee camp,why have they not taken one of the 1000s of children here in tbe care system.
We are crying out for foster/adoptive parents here.
Think of the s*** the kids here have had to go through,sexual/physical abuse.

Couldn't the Scouts take them, they would feel more at home then.

 


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legaleagle Flag 04 Nov 17 11.23am

Originally posted by Kermit8


Wouldn't that be more to do with their own serious home terrorism problems committed by some of their own people from the 70's through to the 90's dissipating?

Also, not sure if 'Islamist' extremists would be applying for asylum all the way over in Japan? Doesn't quite fit their Jihad v The West narrative.

And their foreign resident workforce has in fact actually increased by 40% since 2013

 

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serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 04 Nov 17 11.33am Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Congrats, from the heart and not the head....

The thing is, not taking in immigrants and refugees isn't a decision made with the head.

It comes from a nationalistic impulse, which still conceives of the world as a Darwinian social competition. If, like Syria, your country has lost the race, then regardless of the circumstances, too bad. On the other end, Britain can interfere in other country's affairs, bomb them and sell them weapons, and as long as it keeps us at the front of the race, then it's accepted. Any repercussions, or even any responsibility for our actions, shouldn't cloud our need to prop up our GDP and maintain 'peace' within our borders.

And what is the 'peace' we are protecting? It's a crony despotism, where the same people who are selling the weapons which are creating refugees are building the most complex civil surveillance systems in the world and watching us like perverts, are making billions as they do it, returning none of the profits back to society, and leaving our schools, hospitals and public services in a f*cking mess. When things go wrong, we can blame the refugees they are creating, and as long as the headlines about GDP rising continue, no one, they believe, will do anything to challenge them.

So what does my head tell me? It tells me that our creaking workplace is being propped up by jobs in retails and services, and having worked many jobs in those fields and knowing people who do, I know they are close to breaking point and will soon collapse because we are losing the immigrant labour force who are the only f*cking people who will do those sh*t jobs for that sh*t pay. My brain tells me that I'm working in a school for kids who have mental disabilities and come from incredibly deprived backgrounds, and I don't even have the f*cking resources as a teacher to give them a chance in life, because the c*nts in the skyscrapers next to where I work won't pay their f*cking taxes.

And what does my heart tell me? That our bullsh*t British bravado, w*nk over Will and Kate, cheerfully elect whichever next pr*ck walks out of Eton again and again and grin and bear it while they rob us of our f*cking money, is justifying us allowing thousands, if not millions, of women and children to drown in the sea. That I have more in common with someone from Syria who's been f*cked over by the powers that be than I do with the faceless suits who work across the road from me. That they decide who the 'necessary sacrifices' are in this big old bullsh*t game of politics and that in another world, at another time, it could just as easily have been my insignificant f*cking body in their f*cking firing line as some poor sod from Afghanistan.

So please, those who want them all to drown, stop pretending your f*cking arguments are coming from the head. Rant over.

 


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kennybrowns leftfoot Flag Reigate 04 Nov 17 11.50am Send a Private Message to kennybrowns leftfoot Add kennybrowns leftfoot as a friend

I've no problem taking in refugee children... As long as that's exactly what they are... children!!

Some of the '15 and 16 year old children' I've dealt with over the last 10 years in the Police have been nothing short of ridiculous in how old they look.

I remember a teacher from John Ruskin College, who was from Afghanistan telling me he used to over hear the '16 year old' Afghan lads talking to eachother about there wife and children back home!!

We have had instances of Refugee 'children' who have been charged with rape who when they've been medically examined by a Doctor he has suspected that their actual age is late 20s, early 30s.

Would you want fully grown men going to school with your teenage daughter??


 


Don't waste your time with jealousy. Sometimes your ahead, sometimes your behind, the race is long. But in the end it's only with yourself!!

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