The identity of the team for me is fighting until the end, giving 100% and fast counter attacking style. Hard to beat ethos.

Our identity was relegation fodder, make up the numbers, yo-yo club. What's changed?

Genuinely sorry it is not working out on the pitch, it's a new tack. It may take the whole season before we get it right. Also so sorry there is no one on the HOL
from the CPFC2010 board to answer YOU directly here, maybe the mods can help.

Based on the above, in my opinion, FDB has every right to experiment and to try all the worst possible options and in so doing lose all games until the end of the window. Unfortunately, we did, its whats called a learning curve. However, days before the match, Frank did say. "It depends on who on the day is more hungry to win the game." That is down to the way the players played on the day. The games were lost on player errors. Kindly prove the formational errors that were more responsible than the player errors THAT DIRECTLY LED TO GOALS.

Still, I don't disrespect your opinion, it's valid in the short term. I feel strongly that the best opportunity for Frank to experiment to his heart's content was until the end of the window and the final Squad. I won't add Frank to the same learning curve as the players until the end of November, personally.

So we're down to whether we should play direct football till we get the points then worry about learning Total football.

I don't know maybe that is what will happen after the International break. Maybe not, but clearly it depends on who we end up with. I've not lost sleep over it, I work nights

COYP!

ignoring the sarcastic patronising of me

The fatal error so far this season is the inability to defend crosses. This is basic stuff we're talking about, losing a man in the box and not pressuring the crosser. In the Hudds game Mooy (and Ince) had the freedom of SP to cross as our 3 atb system and high line was exploited by one long ball (which Schalke used again and again) into the space. Riedewald was partly to blame as well for losing Mounie. Even in the first few mins v Swans they nearly scored from a cross to Abraham.

Another thing is the absymal movement of the team in possession. No one presents themselves as options for the pass, no one creates space for themselves in the 3-4-3 system as I suspect they barely understand where they should be. With Wilf there are no runners in the team and the wing backs have half a mind on not being caught up the pitch. As a result our build up play is easy to defend against. No surprise when Andros ran at their defence (going with his instinct as a direct player) we looked like we'd threaten them. Unless the movement is there then we will create f*** all.

Thirdly, the system has completely negated Luka's presence by forcing him to push up instead of screening the CB's. He is a defensive midfielder, end of and should be in a midfield 3. He must take some blame for his poor performances but the system is not right for him. With 2 CB's and him in front he can drop in between them to collect the ball and distribute to Cabaye and RLC (the ideal partners for him) then stay in our half but he has too much to do now. He is a very effective player in the right system but FdB is using him poorly.

Edited by iheartcpfc (28 Aug 2017 8.14am)