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 Stirlingsays  08 Aug 17 2.34pm |
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This thread isn't about 'bloody sunday'. That event was a stain on the British Army and something we have rightly apologized for. It was a situation of a failure of command of a unit under stress but it still isn't defensible. It has fcuk all to do with Venezuelan murder gangs going around looking for people to murder in 2017 and has to be one of the most annoying examples of 'whataboutery' I've come across yet. That game could be played for ever and a day. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 2.37pm)
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Kermit8  Hevon 08 Aug 17 2.38pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
It's a good thing we aren't in the same room right now. You talk absolute bull. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 2.16pm) Why? Did you just let one off?
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 2.39pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Why? Did you just let one off?
Yeah yeah....I've calmed down now.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 08 Aug 17 2.42pm |
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Edited by Kermit8 (08 Aug 2017 2.43pm)
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 2.44pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Bloody sunday wasn't sanctioned, that's not fair.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 08 Aug 17 2.49pm |
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London riots: Croydon 'is a war zone After the 'execution' of an unarmed black male suspected of robbery by armed police.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 2.49pm |
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Any government that kills or unlawfully imprisons its own people, is unjust. You cannot claim to be a revolution for the people, and then kill those people who disagree. The greater good cannot be decided by the sacrifice of other people, only the individual can be relied on to make that choice themselves. Countries that chooses to kill in anything other than a last resort should be questioned. Those that endorse it, rejected.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 08 Aug 17 2.51pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
London riots: Croydon 'is a war zone After the 'execution' of an unarmed black male suspected of robbery by armed police. He's got a point, every time an unarmed man is killed by armed police, we should look very closely and as independently as possible at the event, circumstances etc. Whenever agents of the state kill citizens, we should be right to be concerned to the point that we dissect the event to certainty. The role of the police is not to kill citizens.
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| Kermit8 Hevon 08 Aug 17 2.54pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Bloody sunday wasn't sanctioned, that's not fair.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Aug 17 2.59pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
I was actually agreeing with you and tbh I do have a very valid point even if a bit windy uppy. Tianaman, Seoul, Caracas, Amritsar (us again) and Derry etc. No excuses. No real difference. Murder by the authorities/security forces. Edited by Kermit8 (08 Aug 2017 2.43pm) I wonder which events Corbyn unambiguously condemned - those not involving people he supported no doubt.
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 08 Aug 17 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
London riots: Croydon 'is a war zone After the 'execution' of an unarmed black male suspected of robbery by armed police. Croydon is more or less a war zone all of the time these days.
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| Stirlingsays 08 Aug 17 3.04pm |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
What happened on bloody sunday was not what happened in that video. That unit did not intend to murder people...I can't say about individuals. If that unit had wanted to murder everyone we would have been talking about far far deaths. That incident involved confusion and stress and mistakes....unforgivable mistakes. I won't defend it....but it wasn't the same. I repeat the British government did not condone murdering protesters. For you to waffle equivalencies with a terrible incident 45 years ago is just completely ludicrous. Edited by Stirlingsays (08 Aug 2017 3.05pm)
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