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 Kermit8  Hevon 11 Jul 17 8.19am |
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Mogg appeals to the snobby and it gives me imagined status Tory voter. No one with strong religious convictions should be anywhere near the top job. Thought we had learned our lesson with Blair.
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matt_himself  Matataland 11 Jul 17 8.43am |
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Mogg appeals to the snobby and it gives me imagined status Tory voter. No one with strong religious convictions should be anywhere near the top job. Thought we had learned our lesson with Blair. Fascism at work. Once you start discriminating against people where does it stop? People with religious convictions have just the same right as feminists, humanists, atheists and whinging lefties to be PM. It's called democracy.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jul 17 8.49am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Whoever wins is depressing for the other side. Don't take it so seriously. Enact your own personal politics and support the causes you personally believe in.....I'm sure you do anyway. Yes but why aren't you saying, I'd like Johnson because he has a great vision for the NHS, it could really use that extra £350m a week he's been campaigning for? Or that he's keen on lifting the arbitrary and damaging public sector pay cap unlike Maybot and Hamface.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jul 17 8.56am |
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Originally posted by Willo
I loved JRMs comments "the thin gruel has been further watered down" in relation to Cameron's negotiations with the EU ! I have not met JRM. He is the local MP of an old friend of mine who lives outside Bath.He has met JRM and told me some while ago that he can talk with authority on a range of subjects so his knowledge of topics "Across the board" is impressive. Edited by Willo (10 Jul 2017 11.24pm) Reading the first half of the sentence I thought for a minute you were about to say he was talking about public sector pay or workers rights... Given his voting record his "authority" on subjects is not an authority which passes muster. His "knowledge" is clearly tainted by his class backgrounds. I doubt he has much knowledge of what it's like to work on minimum wage or to have to live on insecure disability benefits.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 17 8.59am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Yes but why aren't you saying, I'd like Johnson because he has a great vision for the NHS, it could really use that extra £350m a week he's been campaigning for? Or that he's keen on lifting the arbitrary and damaging public sector pay cap unlike Maybot and Hamface. No responsible Government restrains public expenditure to make the electorate miserable.It is because control of public expenditure is the foundation of future job growth. And a responsible Chancellor inevitably gives careful consideration to public-sector pay which amounts to nearly 50% of current expenditure and about 30% of total public expenditure. Anyway we are getting into a debate about expenditure rather than the eloquent and erudite JRM !
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 17 9.06am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Reading the first half of the sentence I thought for a minute you were about to say he was talking about public sector pay or workers rights... Given his voting record his "authority" on subjects is not an authority which passes muster. His "knowledge" is clearly tainted by his class backgrounds. I doubt he has much knowledge of what it's like to work on minimum wage or to have to live on insecure disability benefits. 1. Bringing up that subject of "Class" again.He must be an awful citizen as he went to Eton and talks in a rather posh accent. "Roll eyes". 2. I doubt if Corbyn and his comrades in the PLP fit into the categories you brought to the debate.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jul 17 9.08am |
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Originally posted by Willo
No responsible Government restrains public expenditure to make the electorate miserable.It is because control of public expenditure is the foundation of future job growth. And a responsible Chancellor inevitably gives careful consideration to public-sector pay which amounts to nearly 50% of current expenditure and about 30% of total public expenditure. Anyway we are getting into a debate about expenditure rather than the eloquent and erudite JRM !
You're spouting the same zombie economics that most other Tories seem to be carrying on with. It's been utterly discredited and only continues to do harm. There is nothing "responsible" about it. it's utterly irresponsible and comes simply from a position of intransigent ideology. Mogg is wedded to this same failed ideology, the same economics that has weakened the very structure of our economy and the backbone of our public services. His record shows he'd be the same failure of a PM that Cameron and May have been.
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| CambridgeEagle Sydenham 11 Jul 17 9.09am |
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Originally posted by Willo
1. Bringing up that subject of "Class" again.He must be an awful citizen as he went to Eton and talks in a rather posh accent. "Roll eyes". 2. I doubt if Corbyn and his comrades in the PLP fit into the categories you brought to the debate.
He's certainly part of the "few" with little concept of what it means to be part of the "many" and even less interest.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 17 9.19am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
You're spouting the same zombie economics that most other Tories seem to be carrying on with. It's been utterly discredited and only continues to do harm. There is nothing "responsible" about it. it's utterly irresponsible and comes simply from a position of intransigent ideology. Mogg is wedded to this same failed ideology, the same economics that has weakened the very structure of our economy and the backbone of our public services. His record shows he'd be the same failure of a PM that Cameron and May have been. I have just given out a hearty laugh. As for "Failed ideology", I would like to remind you that nearly £3 Mill more people are in work since 2010, We have more people in work than ever before and we have the lowest unemployment rate since 1975. It is 'Socialism' that has failed as I showed in a 'Link' on here but Gussett dismissed it as being full of exagerrations which is hardly surprising. Anyway, you have had your say, so have I - The Thread risks getting seriously de-railed so let's concentrate on JRM and NOT use him as an outlet to broaden the discussion into areas which deviate from the subject matter.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 17 9.23am |
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
He's certainly part of the "few" with little concept of what it means to be part of the "many" and even less interest. What like Corbyn who says one thing to the "Few" and another to the "Many". I've never met JRM so I cannot judge him as a person.All I know is that he has vast knowledge of an array of subjects and that he is engaging and enlightning.I aim to see my friend who lives outside Bath and whose MP is JRM - maybe I will try to meet JRM during that visit !
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| Kermit8 Hevon 11 Jul 17 9.32am |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
Fascism at work. Once you start discriminating against people where does it stop? People with religious convictions have just the same right as feminists, humanists, atheists and whinging lefties to be PM. It's called democracy. Democracy you say. Well you may be ok with hardline Sharia-promoting clerics becoming MPs for Newham and Bradford West one day, and who knows maybe eight other constituencies in the future, and then in a position to do deals with a Minority governments for 'a reward', but i'm not. A strong belief ridden Catholic will be up for discrimination against Gays, pro-choice groups and even a smidgen of anti-semitism. No, thanks. Keep uk politics secular. Edited by Kermit8 (11 Jul 2017 9.33am)
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| Mr Palaceman 11 Jul 17 9.32am |
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I don't understand how someone could get so easily caught out. Opps, I never knew... Where's my cheque please...
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