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Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 21 May 17 6.52pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Well Wayne is Welsh No 1 , and those accolades are about the same .

Have to admit having zero interest in Wales but Hennessey has, over the last eighteen months, been really poor.

Kicking great but no presence for a tall man, poor footwork, clearly a poor communicator, slow to get down for a low ball, questionable handling and only rarely manages anything other than a standard save.

 
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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 21 May 17 7.07pm

Feels like every shot the opposition have on target goes in against Wayne.

 

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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 May 17 7.09pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Stockdale on a free from the scum on the south coast?

 

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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 21 May 17 11.49pm Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Feels like every shot the opposition have on target goes in against Wayne.

How many clean sheets did Steve keep ?

I have never seen a keeper concede a goal as bad as the one one Mandanda conceded against Burnley , unless we count the one Speroni palmed in against Portsmouth that was going wide.

You will quote Hennessey against Villa , that is a one off bad mistake, but for technical errors the other two are worse.
In the way Speroni error against Everton was a act of one off stupidity that changed a game we were in control of.

 
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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 22 May 17 10.16am Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

How many clean sheets did Steve keep ?

I have never seen a keeper concede a goal as bad as the one one Mandanda conceded against Burnley , unless we count the one Speroni palmed in against Portsmouth that was going wide.

You will quote Hennessey against Villa , that is a one off bad mistake, but for technical errors the other two are worse.
In the way Speroni error against Everton was a act of one off stupidity that changed a game we were in control of.

How many clean sheets did Hennessey have?? Mandanda played 9 games, Hennessey played all the rest.....how many match winning saves did he make? None... Hennessey v Villa a one off mistake? Really? What about all the free kick goals he conceded, were they all one off mistakes? He is a liability, any free kick up to 30 yards out is as good as a penalty to the opposition with him in goal.....we badly need an upgrade or were going to be in the same position next season.

 
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MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 22 May 17 10.28am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

How many clean sheets did Hennessey have?? Mandanda played 9 games, Hennessey played all the rest.....how many match winning saves did he make? None... Hennessey v Villa a one off mistake? Really? What about all the free kick goals he conceded, were they all one off mistakes? He is a liability, any free kick up to 30 yards out is as good as a penalty to the opposition with him in goal.....we badly need an upgrade or were going to be in the same position next season.

Yes an upgrade would be nice ,I think everyone agrees on that, but how much do you want to spend to get a significantly better keeper?

Same position next season ? Well we didn't get relegated and look how much better the team performed with a manager and 4 new players, Hennessey was in that team and had we started the season with that team and a manager we would never have been in any trouble.

I will wait and see what Sam comes up with in the summer , I hope he finds us a bargain upgrade.
You never know he might install some fight into Manadanda and he might prove to be the solution we hoped he was last summer.

 
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cpj Flag Kent 22 May 17 10.48am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by the silurian

How many clean sheets did Hennessey have?? Mandanda played 9 games, Hennessey played all the rest.....how many match winning saves did he make? None... Hennessey v Villa a one off mistake? Really? What about all the free kick goals he conceded, were they all one off mistakes? He is a liability, any free kick up to 30 yards out is as good as a penalty to the opposition with him in goal.....we badly need an upgrade or were going to be in the same position next season.

7 clean sheets in 29 games this season - not a bad record. SM had none in 9. WH made 2.9 saves per game to SM's 2.7. WH conceded 1.6 goals per game to SM's 1.9. Those are the facts. Other than that it's just your opinion. Yes, we could do with a better keeper but so could half the PL, and you can't seriously imply that all our problems this season were down to WH????

 
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Painter Flag Croydon 22 May 17 10.56am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

On the evidence that Steve was Ligue 1 keeper of the year on multiple occasions and OM's Player of the year plenty of times during his tenure whereas Wayne has been consistently crap for us and has done almost nothing to prove he should be kept.

It's unfortunate Mandanda didn't work out but that doesn't mean he is a bad player. Di Maria and Schwienstieger flopped at united, it happens.

That's not evidence, it's hearsay. There is no reason if he is supposedly that good, he didn't work out, as you put it. A goalkeeper is the same in any team, very different from an outfield player, who has to adapt to a formation a team plays.
The reality is he isn't as good as he reportedly is, not good enough to oust Hennessy, who played in the team that reached the Euro semis.

 
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cpj Flag Kent 22 May 17 11.04am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

Originally posted by Brentmiester_General

Feels like every shot the opposition have on target goes in against Wayne.

Yet he made 2.9 saves per game, as opposed to SM's 2.7. Still let's not let facts get in the way of your bias.

 
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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 22 May 17 11.27am

Originally posted by Painter

That's not evidence, it's hearsay. There is no reason if he is supposedly that good, he didn't work out, as you put it. A goalkeeper is the same in any team, very different from an outfield player, who has to adapt to a formation a team plays.
The reality is he isn't as good as he reportedly is, not good enough to oust Hennessy, who played in the team that reached the Euro semis.

You love Wayne Henessey. We get it.

 

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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 22 May 17 2.37pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

7 clean sheets in 29 games this season - not a bad record. SM had none in 9. WH made 2.9 saves per game to SM's 2.7. WH conceded 1.6 goals per game to SM's 1.9. Those are the facts. Other than that it's just your opinion. Yes, we could do with a better keeper but so could half the PL, and you can't seriously imply that all our problems this season were down to WH????


I never said ALL our problems were down to WH! However, even you must admit that he caused us to concede a lot of unneccessary goals which ultimately cost us points, case in point being the Spurs goal which most Premier keepers would have saved, or at least got close to it..WH did neither! Ok you use facts based on SM saving 0.3 goals more per game to rubbish SM, but Whs 1.6 goals PER GAME aint exactly brilliant is it? How many clean sheets did Hennessey have in his first 9 games?? SM had 9 games behind a suspect defence, in a new country hardly had time to settle in, how much better could he have been behind Sakho, jeez even Hennessey had clean sheets behind him, mainly because Sakho prevented WH having many shots to save..
Whatever, we really need a decent keeper for next season, or we will be in the same situation next year, still moaning about a 2nd rate keeper!

 
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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 22 May 17 2.41pm Send a Private Message to the silurian Add the silurian as a friend

Originally posted by MKCPFC

Yes an upgrade would be nice ,I think everyone agrees on that, but how much do you want to spend to get a significantly better keeper?

Same position next season ? Well we didn't get relegated and look how much better the team performed with a manager and 4 new players, Hennessey was in that team and had we started the season with that team and a manager we would never have been in any trouble.

I will wait and see what Sam comes up with in the summer , I hope he finds us a bargain upgrade.
You never know he might install some fight into Manadanda and he might prove to be the solution we hoped he was last summer.

Actually meant position re arguing about Hennessey being rubbish and costing us goals ! not league position.....he only started to look like a keeper when Sakho came in and basically prevented most of the shots getting as far as Wayne!

 
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