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Stirlingsays 03 Apr 17 1.44pm
Originally posted by nickgusset With all respect (and I'll hold my hands up that I assumed the colour of the perpetrators - they're still British though?) my post was written to show how facile the why aren't Muslims doing anything about ISIS argument we get on here is. No, it seems facile to you because you no doubt know very little about the religion itself. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)
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03 Apr 17 1.44pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

With all respect (and I'll hold my hands up that I assumed the colour of the perpetrators - they're still British though?) my post was written to show how facile the why aren't Muslims doing anything about ISIS argument we get on here is.

No, it seems facile to you because you no doubt know very little about the religion itself.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 17 1.48pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Really, I think its a case of vicious hateful little sts, being cts. Racism / Nationalism is just one of the many 'defences' people will use to justify almost beating a boy to death for the 'audacity' of fleeing Iran. Its the kind of mentality that groups like the EDL and Britain First perpetuate and appeal to. I'm not sure there is any 'defence' for such an act. The simple fact is that nasty scum are nasty scum and what politics they tend toward or what colour they are is incidental to that fact. If we want to see who does what in terms of reported street crime then there are statistics available.
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03 Apr 17 1.48pm

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Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Really, I think its a case of vicious hateful little s**ts, being c**ts. Racism / Nationalism is just one of the many 'defences' people will use to justify almost beating a boy to death for the 'audacity' of fleeing Iran.

Its the kind of mentality that groups like the EDL and Britain First perpetuate and appeal to.

I'm not sure there is any 'defence' for such an act.
The simple fact is that nasty scum are nasty scum and what politics they tend toward or what colour they are is incidental to that fact.

If we want to see who does what in terms of reported street crime then there are statistics available.

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hedgehog50 Croydon 03 Apr 17 1.49pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Really, I think its a case of vicious hateful little sts, being cts. Racism / Nationalism is just one of the many 'defences' people will use to justify almost beating a boy to death for the 'audacity' of fleeing Iran. Its the kind of mentality that groups like the EDL and Britain First perpetuate and appeal to. The point is that the posts made by the lefties on here before the ethnicity of the suspects was known, would not have been posted. Similarly Diane Abbott would not have made the comments she did, in the video linked to above, had she known the ethnicity of the suspects. We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]
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Croydon 03 Apr 17 1.49pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Its the kind of mentality that groups like the EDL and Britain First perpetuate and appeal to.

The point is that the posts made by the lefties on here before the ethnicity of the suspects was known, would not have been posted. Similarly Diane Abbott would not have made the comments she did, in the video linked to above, had she known the ethnicity of the suspects.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 17 1.52pm
Originally posted by hedgehog50 The point is that the posts made by the lefties on here before the ethnicity of the suspects was known, would not have been posted. Similarly Diane Abbott would not have made the comments she did, in the video linked to above, had she known the ethnicity of the suspects. Exactly, but the usual suspects will do cartwheels to avoid admitting that. You know the drill.
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Hrolf The Ganger

03 Apr 17 1.52pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Exactly, but the usual suspects will do cartwheels to avoid admitting that.

You know the drill.

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paperhat croydon 03 Apr 17 1.55pm
Originally posted by davenotamonkey Interesting to see how Sky and the BBC are now reporting this. Shall we see how many other news establishments now bury references to "Hate Crime" deep in their articles, rather than plaster it over their headlines? [Tweet Link] So Mrs Abbott, did the awfully racist white guys make the 'people of colour' join in ?? Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan
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croydon 03 Apr 17 1.55pm

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

Interesting to see how Sky and the BBC are now reporting this.

Shall we see how many other news establishments now bury references to "Hate Crime" deep in their articles, rather than plaster it over their headlines?

[Tweet Link]

So Mrs Abbott, did the awfully racist white guys make the 'people of colour' join in ??

Clinton is Clinton. I have known him for a long time, I know his mother... Simon Jordan

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miss smith london 03 Apr 17 1.58pm
how low can diane abott go trying to use brexit as an excuse for this attack that really is the the pits,gangs of thugs roam our streets in every town every weekend in this country for as long as i can remember and i am in my late 60s Edited by miss smith (03 Apr 2017 2.03pm)
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london 03 Apr 17 1.58pm

how low can diane abott go trying to use brexit as an excuse for this attack that really is the the pits,gangs of thugs roam our streets in every town every weekend in this country for as long as i can remember and i am in my late 60s

Edited by miss smith (03 Apr 2017 2.03pm)

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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Apr 17 1.59pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I'm not sure there is any 'defence' for such an act. The simple fact is that nasty scum are nasty scum and what politics they tend toward or what colour they are is incidental to that fact. If we want to see who does what in terms of reported street crime then there are statistics available. People involved in the extreme ends of the political spectrum, have a tendency towards violence, over political discourse, and some people are attracted to those groups because of the violence they offer, over anything else. Its always traditionally been more a problem with groups on the far right, in my experience (which is bias), like the EDL, NF and BNP, because of the focus of these groups specifically on what they don't like in society and their nationalism. I've known a few through AA, who's attraction really was the violence over the politics. That said, in the past its certainly the case that the far left in the UK hasn't been innocent of attracting thugs over political interest. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 03 Apr 17 1.59pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I'm not sure there is any 'defence' for such an act.
The simple fact is that nasty scum are nasty scum and what politics they tend toward or what colour they are is incidental to that fact.

If we want to see who does what in terms of reported street crime then there are statistics available.

People involved in the extreme ends of the political spectrum, have a tendency towards violence, over political discourse, and some people are attracted to those groups because of the violence they offer, over anything else.

Its always traditionally been more a problem with groups on the far right, in my experience (which is bias), like the EDL, NF and BNP, because of the focus of these groups specifically on what they don't like in society and their nationalism. I've known a few through AA, who's attraction really was the violence over the politics.

That said, in the past its certainly the case that the far left in the UK hasn't been innocent of attracting thugs over political interest.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Hrolf The Ganger 03 Apr 17 2.02pm
Originally posted by paperhat So Mrs Abbott, did the awfully racist white guys make the 'people of colour' join in ?? I was quite colourful this morning. My central heating got stuck on and I was a bit pink for a while. I opened a few windows and am now back to greyscale.
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Hrolf The Ganger

03 Apr 17 2.02pm

Originally posted by paperhat

So Mrs Abbott, did the awfully racist white guys make the 'people of colour' join in ??

I was quite colourful this morning. My central heating got stuck on and I was a bit pink for a while.
I opened a few windows and am now back to greyscale.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 03 Apr 17 2.05pm
Originally posted by miss smith how low can diane abott go trying to use brexit as an excuse for this attack that really is the the pits,gangs of thugs roam our streets in every town every weekend in this country I think its more that it semi-legitimises them in the eyes of others around them (i.e. the 20 or so other people cheering them on). Of course, they'd have battered the poor lad for any convenient reason. But to some extent the referendum vote has brought some of the uglier side of British Nationalism to the fore. After all, its likely they consider the outcome as 'their victory', and feel emboldened by it, that it legitimises their view. Because that's what their interest really is in, themselves, their power and authority. They don't give a s**t about England or Britain, that they'd actually do something meaningful for the country. Just that it lets them wield fear, authority and legitimise their violence against others. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 03 Apr 17 2.05pm

Originally posted by miss smith

how low can diane abott go trying to use brexit as an excuse for this attack that really is the the pits,gangs of thugs roam our streets in every town every weekend in this country

I think its more that it semi-legitimises them in the eyes of others around them (i.e. the 20 or so other people cheering them on). Of course, they'd have battered the poor lad for any convenient reason.

But to some extent the referendum vote has brought some of the uglier side of British Nationalism to the fore. After all, its likely they consider the outcome as 'their victory', and feel emboldened by it, that it legitimises their view.

Because that's what their interest really is in, themselves, their power and authority. They don't give a s**t about England or Britain, that they'd actually do something meaningful for the country. Just that it lets them wield fear, authority and legitimise their violence against others.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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miss smith london 03 Apr 17 2.40pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 I think its more that it semi-legitimises them in the eyes of others around them (i.e. the 20 or so other people cheering them on). Of course, they'd have battered the poor lad for any convenient reason. But to some extent the referendum vote has brought some of the uglier side of British Nationalism to the fore. After all, its likely they consider the outcome as 'their victory', and feel emboldened by it, that it legitimises their view. Because that's what their interest really is in, themselves, their power and authority. They don't give a s**t about England or Britain, that they'd actually do something meaningful for the country. Just that it lets them wield fear, authority and legitimise their violence against others. its true what you say,they could not give a monkeys about britain,whether its the left team or the right team every thing is media and political spin
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miss smith

london 03 Apr 17 2.40pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

its true what you say,they could not give a monkeys about britain,whether its the left team or the right team every thing is media and political spin

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davenotamonkey 03 Apr 17 2.48pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger The point is that certain people want to use such an attack to highlight the apparent racism in Britain by white people, especially since Brexit. All of this is codswallop and a cynical use of someones misfortune for political gain. In the event, at least some of the suspects seem to be black, so the usual suspects have made themselves look like total idiots. This is an example of left wing delusion v reality. I'll leave this here, as it seems apropos. I do hope our pearl-clutching race baiters read it [Link]
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03 Apr 17 2.48pm

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The point is that certain people want to use such an attack to highlight the apparent racism in Britain by white people, especially since Brexit.
All of this is codswallop and a cynical use of someones misfortune for political gain.
In the event, at least some of the suspects seem to be black, so the usual suspects have made themselves look like total idiots.

This is an example of left wing delusion v reality.

I'll leave this here, as it seems apropos. I do hope our pearl-clutching race baiters read it

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davenotamonkey 03 Apr 17 2.49pm
Originally posted by nickgusset With all respect (and I'll hold my hands up that I assumed the colour of the perpetrators - they're still British though?) my post was written to show how facile the why aren't Muslims doing anything about ISIS argument we get on here is. Ah, phew. They're still British, so there's still that to fall back on. Perhaps one or two voted for Brexit? Can only hope, eh?
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davenotamonkey

03 Apr 17 2.49pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

Ah, phew. They're still British, so there's still that to fall back on. Perhaps one or two voted for Brexit? Can only hope, eh?

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