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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 30 Mar 17 2.50pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by You What

That made me laugh. Maybe it's time to get back on the tools Alan!!

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We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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Ray in Houston Flag Houston 30 Mar 17 2.56pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

Great player. Really he's hardly impressed when he's on the field

Lee is too flimsy for the Premier League.

 


We don't do possession; we do defense and attack. Everything else is just wa**ing with a football.

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tonymikejoe Flag UK 30 Mar 17 4.32pm Send a Private Message to tonymikejoe Add tonymikejoe as a friend

Originally posted by Mad4palace

I still don't understand why we accepted £4 million for Jedi, really £4 million is nothing in today's football market, especially given we had no other DM at the time and for 7 months after until Milivojevic came. Jedi was on comparatively minuscule wages to most at the club, the cost to replace him has been far too high, the club should have realised that, when you have good reliable 30+ player like Jedinak or Murray just keep hold of them. You end up having to spend 3x what you get for them, risking it on a younger player who might not be as good. Trim the squad of players like Ledley, Mutch, Lee, not your stalwarts.

Jedi was actually playing his best football since 2014 when we sold him, that was my greatest disappointment because I could see the prick that sold him wasn't going to last the season anyway.

There is so much slaughtering on here among fans, maybe towards me from the poster above, I don't know, but this is a top, top comment.

 

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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 30 Mar 17 6.01pm Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Someone posted the list of Pardew signings on the BBS:

Mutch
Ameobi
Souare
Lee Chung-yong
Sanogo
Cabaye
A.McCarthy
Bamford
Wickham
Sako
Adebayor
Mandanda
Townsend
C Benteke
J Benteke
Tomkins
Flamini
Remy


Who out of those could you say was actually a really good signing? Souare had been linked with us for ages (Warnock said post-sacking that he'd been interested). Cabaye arguably been OK, but pricey. Wickham's a sick note. Benteke an obvious signing. Tomkins only now coming good, likewise Townsend.

The rest are awful. This is what let him down IMO, his failure to evolve the squad properly. After two years we basically had the same first team, relying on the same players.

 


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Midlands Eagle Flag 30 Mar 17 7.23pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Someone posted the list of Pardew signings on the BBS:

Mutch
Ameobi
Souare
Lee Chung-yong
Sanogo
Cabaye
A.McCarthy
Bamford
Wickham
Sako
Adebayor
Mandanda
Townsend
C Benteke
J Benteke
Tomkins
Flamini
Remy


Who out of those could you say was actually a really good signing? Souare had been linked with us for ages (Warnock said post-sacking that he'd been interested). Cabaye arguably been OK, but pricey. Wickham's a sick note. Benteke an obvious signing. Tomkins only now coming good, likewise Townsend.

The rest are awful. This is what let him down IMO, his failure to evolve the squad properly. After two years we basically had the same first team, relying on the same players.

It's amazing what short memories some people have. I'm no Pardew fan boy but it's easy to criticize his signings with the benefit of hindsight.

Go back to when we signed them and there was an air of excitement on HOL about many of the signings including Bamford as we were pleased to get the Championship's top striker at the time.

The only signing out of that lot that we couldn't understand at the time was Benteke Junior who had been underwhelming at his previous clubs.

The only signings in the Pardew regime that he could be criticized for were those that he didn't sign with a defensive midfielder and attacking midfielder being the prime examples

 

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Dan89 Flag Se25 30 Mar 17 7.25pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Originally posted by Dan89

This sums up pardew success in the transfer window
Pardew signings since being at the club
Soaure hit
Ameboi flop
Chungy flop
Mutch. Disaster
Sanogo. Flop
Zaha loan turned to permanent hit
McCarthy flop
Cabaye. Ok
Sako. Flop
Wickham. Ok
Bamford. Flop
Adebayor flop
Mandanda flop
Tomkins. Flop under pardew. Shown significant improvement
Flamini. Flop
Remy. Flop due to lack of game time
Townsend similar to Tomkins. Was poor under pardew
Benteke ok in terms of goal record but need more
J. Benteke. Publicity stunt- flop

It's laughable that he wanted the January to rectify the problems after his disasters in the transfer market.


Edited by Dan89 (29 Mar 2017 11.53am)

 


Another Damien Diagonal - Total Football

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alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 30 Mar 17 9.01pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

Yep. Can't argue with that. But, I always thought he deserved up until Xmas considering he was still averaging a point a game before the Man U match (or was it Chelsea?) before he was given the axe and things certainly weren't boring on the goals front. I was on the same page as Parish.

Good news though - we certainly were a relegation team post_Pardew and before new signings but now we are very much not. Credit to Sam big-time on three of the signings. Still not sure about £14mill for Schlupp or his ability. Don't think Al could have pulled that out of the hat.

Edited by Kermit8 (30 Mar 2017 1.33pm)

Kermit he got up to Christmas.Sacked on the 22nd December.
Just under 2 years.

 


Palace 13th 2017/18.

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Kermit8 Flag Hevon 30 Mar 17 9.56pm Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Kermit he got up to Christmas.Sacked on the 22nd December.
Just under 2 years.


I should have said 'deserved up until Xmas before things got a bit nasty' but people where on his back on here 10 months earlier and all the way through to the end and I don't think he deserved that treatment. I thnk some of our 'fans' were over the top and somewhat sh1tty tbh.

Edited by Kermit8 (30 Mar 2017 9.57pm)

 


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alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 30 Mar 17 10.07pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8


I should have said 'deserved up until Xmas before things got a bit nasty' but people where on his back on here 10 months earlier and all the way through to the end and I don't think he deserved that treatment. I thnk some of our 'fans' were over the top and somewhat sh1tty tbh.

Edited by Kermit8 (30 Mar 2017 9.57pm)

Agreed,certainly over the top on Hol, not at the ground.

 


Palace 13th 2017/18.

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Mar 17 10.37pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

In May I and others said he should go. We then reluctantly agreed he should maybe be given until Christmas, although that can be late for a new manager to maximise his impact. It was reluctant because there was a predictable inevitability of what would come. And dear oh dear was it getting worse and worse.

Would've done him a favour getting rid in the Summer. He'd still be employable, although a couple of mil worse off.

When you look over most of it since December 2015 lots of the decisions beggar belief.

Open expansive football with no real attacking midfielder and the one drooled over (Cabaye) playing deeper again, and needed there even more after being a midfielder short after selling club captain and getting in nearly retired Matthieu treacle boots.

Left winger wanting to leave and then having a problem with new inside out winger being a right winger, same as Zaha.

A bit nasty online? Considering what they get paid and for failure I don't think so. And we were too patient with him on match day. Parish's uncomfortable return of thumbs up included.

 


COYP

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Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 30 Mar 17 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

As an England manager I think he might be worth a go. I've read the discussion on the BBS and I'd go with it. Problem is, after this and a few other things, he'll never get a look in, despite his delusional self on his last Football Focus interview thinking it was something for the future and not then. Not then because his medium term record was diabolically bad.

I think he might have to go the David Motes or Schteve McLaren route abroad before a chairman stupid enough took a chance on him again.

 


COYP

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We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 31 Mar 17 9.36am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's amazing what short memories some people have. I'm no Pardew fan boy but it's easy to criticize his signings with the benefit of hindsight.

Go back to when we signed them and there was an air of excitement on HOL about many of the signings including Bamford as we were pleased to get the Championship's top striker at the time.

The only signing out of that lot that we couldn't understand at the time was Benteke Junior who had been underwhelming at his previous clubs.

The only signings in the Pardew regime that he could be criticized for were those that he didn't sign with a defensive midfielder and attacking midfielder being the prime examples


What a weird line of argument. We on HOL get excited about players but we're not paid to judge whether they'd be effective additions to the team. Pardew was, and he had full control of transfer. His words. I can honestly, hand-on-heart, say I wasn't enthused by the signings of Shola Ameobi, Jordon Mutch, Chung Yong Lee (with a broken leg) and Yaya Sanogo.

 


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