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Osvaldo Epsom 04 Jan 17 1.50pm
Not yet! Big Sam needs to make some monumental changes to this team. What I and the rest of our loyal supporters saw last night broke the trade descriptions act! Football, they didn't have a clue. They surrendered the game from the time the ref blue his whistle to start the game. They can't accurately pass the ball hence it's up in the air for CB to nod hopefully to a Palace player. We played so bad that we made Swansea look as though they were a top 5 team. If we can't beat the likes of Swansea with this team, it says a lot about whether we remain or not. We MUST introduce some new blood and QUICKLY. There is still time and opportunities. I have watched Palace since 1958 and what I saw last night was an absolute disgrace. I am embarrassed to be a Palace supporter. I am not talking about the last few games but for the whole of 2016. My local side, Sutton United would beat us in the cup if we had been drawn against them on Saturday!I will refrain from mentioning names but please remember Palace, that 25,000 loyal dedicated fans watch you at Selhurst and pay good money to do so, so please start playing some football that we can be proud of and that justifies your big salaries!
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Epsom 04 Jan 17 1.50pm

Not yet!
Big Sam needs to make some monumental changes to this team. What I and the rest of our loyal supporters saw last night broke the trade descriptions act! Football, they didn't have a clue. They surrendered the game from the time the ref blue his whistle to start the game. They can't accurately pass the ball hence it's up in the air for CB to nod hopefully to a Palace player. We played so bad that we made Swansea look as though they were a top 5 team. If we can't beat the likes of Swansea with this team, it says a lot about whether we remain or not. We MUST introduce some new blood and QUICKLY.
There is still time and opportunities. I have watched Palace since 1958 and what I saw last night was an absolute disgrace. I am embarrassed to be a Palace supporter. I am not talking about the last few games but for the whole of 2016. My local side, Sutton United would beat us in the cup if we had been drawn against them on Saturday!I will refrain from mentioning names but please remember Palace, that 25,000 loyal dedicated fans watch you at Selhurst and pay good money to do so, so please start playing some football that we can be proud of and that justifies your big salaries!

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jimruss Sidcup 04 Jan 17 1.51pm
I think we'll stay up. As others have said, it won't be pretty, it won't be comfortable but he knows what he's doing and he'll get us safe.
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Sidcup 04 Jan 17 1.51pm

I think we'll stay up.

As others have said, it won't be pretty, it won't be comfortable but he knows what he's doing and he'll get us safe.

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Osvaldo Epsom 04 Jan 17 2.00pm
I hope you're right because it won't be easy getting out of the Championship, just ask the likes Leeds, Wolves,Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham, Norwich, QPR,Blackburn and so it goes on! Sorry to sound negative, but what was on exhibition last night could be put on a par with the National Division, JUST!
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Epsom 04 Jan 17 2.00pm

I hope you're right because it won't be easy getting out of the Championship, just ask the likes Leeds, Wolves,Sheffield Wednesday, Birmingham, Norwich, QPR,Blackburn and so it goes on!
Sorry to sound negative, but what was on exhibition last night could be put on a par with the National Division, JUST!

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chris123 hove actually 04 Jan 17 2.04pm
Swansea just did the double over us and we looked poor, so a real risk.
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hove actually 04 Jan 17 2.04pm

Swansea just did the double over us and we looked poor, so a real risk.

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spartakev2 Anerley 04 Jan 17 2.09pm
Trying really hard to be positive, that was probably the worst we've played for a long while. ...but if the ref gives that penalty and send there keeper off, I think they collapse, we get a bit more confidence and win...we really do seem to have more than our fair shhare of bad luck and bad decisions.keeps being said every game..Small margins...
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Anerley 04 Jan 17 2.09pm

Trying really hard to be positive, that was probably the worst we've played for a long while. ...but if the ref gives that penalty and send there keeper off, I think they collapse, we get a bit more confidence and win...we really do seem to have more than our fair shhare of bad luck and bad decisions.keeps being said every game..Small margins...

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silvertop Portishead 04 Jan 17 2.13pm
I am not sure I agree the OP. I suspect we will scrape survival by the skin of our teeth if only because there are at least 3 worse teams than us. Yes, we lost to one of those. However, I have not been so grumpy [I woke in the middle of the night still seething] since Fulham... and look what happened to that little renaissance. However, we need to prepare for a very difficult January and early February. Not the ideal time given the relatively benign fixtures. We have several walking wounded slowly recovering; we have one key player out for the season; we have several First XI players coming back this month; our best player is away and may not return fully fit; we may buy new players but only at the end of the month; and he/they will require bedding down; and a new manager who is taking longer than our previous "saviours" to get a foothold. Reasons for optimism? Not many. 2 left footed players will balance the team; SA is a proven manager who will come good; Macarthur, Mandanda, Remy(?), Benteke and various half-fit players to hit full fitness towards the end of January; and a good rest for the whole team from now to next Saturday. However, the main reason is that stated above - there are worse teams [believe it or not after last night]; and when we play a fit, rested, better prepared team our relative quality will show. Just.
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Portishead 04 Jan 17 2.13pm

I am not sure I agree the OP. I suspect we will scrape survival by the skin of our teeth if only because there are at least 3 worse teams than us. Yes, we lost to one of those. However, I have not been so grumpy [I woke in the middle of the night still seething] since Fulham... and look what happened to that little renaissance.

However, we need to prepare for a very difficult January and early February. Not the ideal time given the relatively benign fixtures. We have several walking wounded slowly recovering; we have one key player out for the season; we have several First XI players coming back this month; our best player is away and may not return fully fit; we may buy new players but only at the end of the month; and he/they will require bedding down; and a new manager who is taking longer than our previous "saviours" to get a foothold.

Reasons for optimism? Not many. 2 left footed players will balance the team; SA is a proven manager who will come good; Macarthur, Mandanda, Remy(?), Benteke and various half-fit players to hit full fitness towards the end of January; and a good rest for the whole team from now to next Saturday. However, the main reason is that stated above - there are worse teams [believe it or not after last night]; and when we play a fit, rested, better prepared team our relative quality will show.

Just.

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Kermit8 Hevon 04 Jan 17 2.21pm
There are definitely no worse teams than us at this present time in the Premiership looking at the last few games. Big chest and massive boobs [Link]
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Hevon 04 Jan 17 2.21pm

There are definitely no worse teams than us at this present time in the Premiership looking at the last few games.

Big chest and massive boobs

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dannyh wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Jan 17 2.23pm
The only saving grace is that there are a lot of shockingly average teams in the prem and the three relegation places could be taken up by anyone of about 6 clubs, so far to early to start wetting knickers just yet. However it's going to be close, and I know last night was pisspoor, but we did have two clear cut penalty's denied to us by what I can only assume to be massive Official error, meaning we should have had a minimum of three goals (assuming benteke didn't take the pens). Our current injury list is nearly a full first team. Dann Remy McCarthur Fryers Soure Wickham C Benteke J Benteke and wilf and Sako are off to the AFCON. We also had 24 hours less recovery time than them, and it showed. Clearly there are fitness issues at the club, but that's NOT SA doing, that's mildews fault. Way to early to talk about going down with a new manager. I just hope now some people can see what an absolute pr1ck AP was. Edited by dannyh (04 Jan 2017 2.24pm) "It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"
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wherever I lay my hat....... 04 Jan 17 2.23pm

The only saving grace is that there are a lot of shockingly average teams in the prem and the three relegation places could be taken up by anyone of about 6 clubs, so far to early to start wetting knickers just yet.

However it's going to be close, and I know last night was pisspoor, but we did have two clear cut penalty's denied to us by what I can only assume to be massive Official error, meaning we should have had a minimum of three goals (assuming benteke didn't take the pens). Our current injury list is nearly a full first team.

Dann
Remy
McCarthur
Fryers
Soure
Wickham
C Benteke
J Benteke

and wilf and Sako are off to the AFCON.

We also had 24 hours less recovery time than them, and it showed. Clearly there are fitness issues at the club, but that's NOT SA doing, that's mildews fault. Way to early to talk about going down with a new manager.

I just hope now some people can see what an absolute pr1ck AP was.

Edited by dannyh (04 Jan 2017 2.24pm)

"It's not the bullet that's got my name on it that concerns me; it's all them other ones flyin' around marked 'To Whom It May Concern.'"

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 04 Jan 17 2.45pm
Originally posted by Charlie Croker 3 games - West Ham, Everton & Bournemouth. Would be nice to get 6 points from those but, realistically, more likely 3. That's literally on deadline day. You'd hope we're not still looking around by then. Wishful thinking maybe. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Originally posted by Charlie Croker

3 games - West Ham, Everton & Bournemouth. Would be nice to get 6 points from those but, realistically, more likely 3.

That's literally on deadline day. You'd hope we're not still looking around by then. Wishful thinking maybe.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Pista Bristol 04 Jan 17 5.10pm
Originally posted by Kermit8 I've seen enough relegated Palace teams in my time and this is one of them and will be one of the worst unless they can get out of the tailspin by magic. this old time bbs refugee
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Bristol 04 Jan 17 5.10pm

Originally posted by Kermit8

I've seen enough relegated Palace teams in my time and this is one of them and will be one of the worst unless they can get out of the tailspin by magic.

this

old time bbs refugee

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lefty27 ipswich 04 Jan 17 6.34pm
Not convinced we will (stay up), it's different to previous seasons when we looked poor on paper but had fight and togetherness on and off the pitch. We have a shocking injury list and no real strength in depth and no willingness to risk the youngsters. At the moment the way we are playing I would rather see the likes of Kai Kai and Boetang on the pitch giving it 100%. Where's the magic number guy? Didn't think we would need it this season.
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ipswich 04 Jan 17 6.34pm

Not convinced we will (stay up), it's different to previous seasons when we looked poor on paper but had fight and togetherness on and off the pitch. We have a shocking injury list and no real strength in depth and no willingness to risk the youngsters.
At the moment the way we are playing I would rather see the likes of Kai Kai and Boetang on the pitch giving it 100%.
Where's the magic number guy? Didn't think we would need it this season.

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spartakev2 Anerley 04 Jan 17 6.37pm
You'll be amazed the difference two or three new signings can make. Get macarthur back and a few games out if remy and we should be ok..
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Anerley 04 Jan 17 6.37pm

You'll be amazed the difference two or three new signings can make. Get macarthur back and a few games out if remy and we should be ok..

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