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Murray's the man  round ear 16 Aug 16 4.38pm |
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
They do though they didnt have £44m of new signings on the pitch though. Well that shows you don't need to spend millions to be a success. We got up running a tight ship and stayed up - its only since we've gone big time that we slip up. Doesn't work for clubs like us. Never has
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 Part Time James 16 Aug 16 4.52pm |
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Am I the only one here that doesn't feel particularly cross when a supporter of a soon to be League One club comes on here to tell us our club is being run badly?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 16 Aug 16 4.55pm |
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Originally posted by TheFish
Newcastle fans were roundly derided for saying Pardew was a limited manager and an awful person. The "difference it makes" is that, despite it transpiring that Newcastle fans were right, there's been no acknowledgement of that. Pardew escaped Newcastle with little blame for the situation at St James'. Ashley is a bad owner, no doubt, but Pardew contributed to the malaise at the club and certainly shoulders the majority of the responsibility for poor selections, substitutions, tactics and performances. A responsibility that friends in the media helped him avoid. Presumably because the team was doing quite well. They were patchy. They also did do some very good business. His substitutions, selections and tactics were so bad they were sitting in a good position for a top ten finish, and had some good campaigns. Pardew is a good manager at the level of clubs like ours. But then Newcastle fans turn on all their managers very rapidly - Allerdyce anyone?
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| SussexShrew Brighton 16 Aug 16 4.59pm |
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Originally posted by Murray's the man
Huddersfield look decent They did look decent in the first half last week against Shrewsbury... but not in the 2nd... and lost 2-1. And that was with virtually a full strength team and to a Shrewsbury side without Sullay! So no, I hardly think a soured Newcastle Fan has much credibility coming onto this board and telling Palace how to structure the club, right after they lost to Huddersfield. No doubt Newcastle will be back soon, money talks... but right now Palace are the bigger club.
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| Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 16 Aug 16 5.08pm |
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Originally posted by Murray's the man
Well that shows you don't need to spend millions to be a success. We got up running a tight ship and stayed up - its only since we've gone big time that we slip up. Doesn't work for clubs like us. Never has I am not sure what clubs like "US" are any more than "THEM" but I understand the point that you make. Firstly of course you can spend huge amounts of money and screw it up.... you can spend money you don't have; and no one is advocating that. It is possible to spend wisely and cheaply though there are huge limitations to that strategy. Players are valued at what they are for a reason and it wont be often that you can judge a players value better than the club that have them. Ultimately if you want quality then it costs. That is the case in most areas of life and certainly is the case in Football. Don't forget that the new TV deal has driven football inflation even higher. Under the new TV deal £30m is what you have to pay for a £20-25m striker.
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| Sedlescombe Sedlescombe 16 Aug 16 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by TheFish
Newcastle fans were roundly derided for saying Pardew was a limited manager and an awful person. The "difference it makes" is that, despite it transpiring that Newcastle fans were right, there's been no acknowledgement of that. Pardew escaped Newcastle with little blame for the situation at St James'. Ashley is a bad owner, no doubt, but Pardew contributed to the malaise at the club and certainly shoulders the majority of the responsibility for poor selections, substitutions, tactics and performances. A responsibility that friends in the media helped him avoid.
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| Painter Croydon 16 Aug 16 5.25pm |
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Newcastle are destined to follow Leeds, their fans are deluded in thinking they are big clubs, but badly managed from the top was their downfall.
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| Murray's the man round ear 16 Aug 16 5.51pm |
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Originally posted by SussexShrew
They did look decent in the first half last week against Shrewsbury... but not in the 2nd... and lost 2-1. And that was with virtually a full strength team and to a Shrewsbury side without Sullay! So no, I hardly think a soured Newcastle Fan has much credibility coming onto this board and telling Palace how to structure the club, right after they lost to Huddersfield. No doubt Newcastle will be back soon, money talks... but right now Palace are the bigger club. With no disrespect to Shrewsbury, maybe it's not such a big game for them. I only saw highlights of Huddersfield first game, but they looked a decent outfit to me. Yes Toon have lost both opening games but it's early days. I'm not sure I'd say the Newcastle fan is soured, but just sharing the experience they had with Pardew. One thing is certain that a lot of fans are worried about where the club is heading this season
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 16 Aug 16 6.10pm |
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I always thought it a bit weird and quasi racist how we thought the Geordies were -- collectively -- idiots. You've just got to worry when a healthy majority of people watching a team week in, week out don't like what they see.
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sprites  Auckland 16 Aug 16 7.18pm |
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Originally posted by Bangell
Our only attacking options were wide players, it's not hard to predict and it's not hard to defend against us. We had absolutely no creativity through the middle, having to squeeze Championship-quality Lee into the no. 10 position. If we wanted a new manager we should have got one at the end of last season. Things will only be made worse by destabilising the club now. Incorrect. He's prem standard.
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| OldFella London 16 Aug 16 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by sprites
Incorrect. He's prem standard. He really is not, Sprites. You need to watch more carefully/ the right way up.
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Deluded  16 Aug 16 8.13pm |
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Originally posted by jeeagles
So, 18 months after your manager leaves you hunt down a palace website "in peace" to say I told you so, based on 1 game. Even the people in Geordie Shore had have the intellect to work out that's gloating. We were 10 minutes away from winning the cup final and safe by Christmas last season. The dip in form was only attributed to a lack of a striker, injuries and the cup run. Now you're in the Championship and have lost your first two games. Pardew would have kept you up. Especially if he had the same amount of money as McLaren had. It's people like you that have turned Newcastle toxic. Edited by jeeagles (15 Aug 2016 12.53pm) Big Sam was going to relegate us. We gave Derby 4 points that season whe their whole total was 11... To be honest, before Pardew left we weren't actually flying. And I don't know why are you talking about Newcastle here. This thread is about Pardew and it seems his excuses are running out. You have been s***e all 2016 and it has nothing to do with current Newcastle but all to do with Mr Pardew. I think you will sack him before Christmas. Edited by Deluded (16 Aug 2016 8.16pm)
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