Sometimes you see the point made that the Old Testament god was far more blood thirsty than anything in Islam. It isn't a bad point but it does ignore the major differences between the two religions and how they are represented to its adherents.

The Torah doesn't present itself as the pure words of God. It is clearly believed to be words 'inspired' by god.
This provides a difference in terms of criticism of those words and how believers react to that criticism.

The Torah has commandments but it doesn't provide a law system anything like the Sharia, which is a regulated legal system based on Islamic principles.

The framework is far more behind why some Muslims don't properly integrate within western society rather than resentment over bombs on countries they often know little about.

Secular or moderate Muslims are, in many instances, welcome additions to any western state but it is unfortunate that Muslims that take their religion strictly and try to be pious will often end up rejecting the values of western society.....anyone who doesn't understand this is truly in denial of reality or just mouthing leftist ideology that refuses to adapt to reality.

Also lets not forget that all believers in the 'personal god' religions of the major books represent a modern day failure of humanity to be rational and realistic in favour of wish fulfillment myths.

Though obviously its a testament to western society that its their perfect right to continue to do so...It's just a shame that they push these delusions onto their children.

You ignored my question - you described the decision as inevitable, how is that so?

It's won him many followers because it's the sort of pathetic posturing people think will help, when in reality, it will do the opposite - you don't kill an ideology with guns and walls, you do it with education and integration - you only have to look at the number of attacks being carried out by natives to understand that.

Sometimes you see the point made that the Old Testament god was far more blood thirsty than anything in Islam. It isn't a bad point but it does ignore the major differences between the two religions and how they are represented to its adherents.

The Torah doesn't present itself as the pure words of God. It is clearly believed to be words 'inspired' by god.
This provides a difference in terms of criticism of those words and how believers react to that criticism.

The Torah has commandments but it doesn't provide a law system anything like the Sharia, which is a regulated legal system based on Islamic principles.

The framework is far more behind why some Muslims don't properly integrate within western society rather than resentment over bombs on countries they often know little about.

Secular or moderate Muslims are, in many instances, welcome additions to any western state but it is unfortunate that Muslims that take their religion strictly and try to be pious will often end up rejecting the values of western society.....anyone who doesn't understand this is truly in denial of reality or just mouthing leftist ideology that refuses to adapt to reality.

Also lets not forget that all believers in the 'personal god' religions of the major books represent a modern day failure of humanity to be rational and realistic in favour of wish fulfillment myths.

Though obviously its a testament to western society that its their perfect right to continue to do so...It's just a shame that they push these delusions onto their children.

Religion isn't really the problem, people are the problem. Jesus, I can get down with a lot of what he says, even though I don't believe in him or god. But it take religion to turn ideals around pacifism, turning the other cheek, love and selflessness into the kind of suppression seen in the name of god (burning and torture of heretics, murder, sectarian terrorism, bombing abortion clinics, persecution of women etc).

There is a lot of worrying Christian extremists and terrorism just bubbling under the surface - particularly where it ties in with militias and the far right.