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davidmyboy Flag 07 Jan 16 10.34pm Send a Private Message to davidmyboy Add davidmyboy as a friend

The way he plays here - no chance dream on, sorry

 

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SeagullHunter Flag Reading 08 Jan 16 6.23pm Send a Private Message to SeagullHunter Add SeagullHunter as a friend

Most recent bid rejected around 15 million euros, Sporting seem intent on holding out for his release clause to be met of 30 million euros or £22 million

 


Dont let Cabaye go

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silvertop Flag Portishead 08 Jan 16 7.05pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Which I hope is more than we are prepared to pay.

 

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AdelaideEagle Flag Adelaide 08 Jan 16 9.19pm Send a Private Message to AdelaideEagle Add AdelaideEagle as a friend

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Quote Andy_G at 01 Dec 2015 11.18am

Quote Catfish at 01 Dec 2015 7.06am

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Quote braunstoneagle at 27 Nov 2015 9.13am

How times have changed in recent years and how it feels weird with the shoe being on the other foot.

for years & years weve watched from afar seeing mid-table PL clubs throw their magic beans at expensive players from inferior league in the hope they will turn out to be a star in the faster, more physical, more demanding PL. There are countless examples of strikers coming in from afar for somewhere in the region of £10+ only to be a dissapointment.

Now its palace looking at spending this type of money on this type of player it makes me feel unesasy. You can point out his internation record of a goal every other gaem, well take a look at who those goals were scored against.

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99% of them against bumphuk nowhere teams.

Yes he has scored goals in portugal but again, against who?

you could point out we have already started spending big money on players like wickham/cabaye/dann(wages). but we already knew what those players can do, they were tried & tested in this league and to a certain extent were "no brainers" when it came to the deals we offered.

I admit ive only seen slimani play a few games, and he looks ok, but £15 ok? nah not really.

There must be a striker in england/spain/italy/germany who would cost similar to slimani but already have big league experience.

The thought of us taking a punt at that price, on that player makes me feel quite uneasy. I would rather we signed andy carroll from WHU.

Why would you write the player off? There are more teams than just us looking at him. Wilfried Bony was signed from Ducth football, Michu was playing in the second tier in Spain for most of his career and had one season in La Liga for Rayo Vallecano. Yes Slimani isnt in the most competitive league but niehter was Henrik Larsson and he went from Celtic to Man Utd to Barca, if they are good enough then they are good enough

The less money you have the more of a punt you have to take. You could wait until he is a confirmed, undisputed superstar but then his price will be 30m


Spot on. We have to take a punt on these type of players before they become established and are out of range. The Bony, Benteke types were punts that worked but of course there are the ones that don't worked and are expensive mistakes, that's the gamble. No idea really on this guy and likely to be the same for any foreign target, trust the scouting.

It's always easy to be daring and bold when it's not your money your punting with. I wouldn't be betting half my transfer budget on a punt, nor would I be brash and risk my employers funds on a whim, not without the risk of being sacked. Regardless of our current financial position, there is a responsibility here to invest that sort of money on proven talent.

 


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sydtheeagle Flag England 09 Jan 16 10.05am Send a Private Message to sydtheeagle Add sydtheeagle as a friend

Quote AdelaideEagle at 08 Jan 2016 9.19pm

It's always easy to be daring and bold when it's not your money your punting with. I wouldn't be betting half my transfer budget on a punt, nor would I be brash and risk my employers funds on a whim, not without the risk of being sacked. Regardless of our current financial position, there is a responsibility here to invest that sort of money on proven talent.

The thing is, the people responsible for the signing don't think they are taking a punt. They believe they're smart enough to identify a talent before anyone else has caught on. That's what leads to pretty much all transfers and to some extent, the board has to back their manager's judgment. In reality, how many "finished articles" are there out there? Giroud...Aguero...Costa...Kane...Lukaku...a few others all guaranteed to score you 20 goals a season. But we're not going to sign any of them. Even Man Utd. (Martial) are now reduced to taking punts.

The reality is that gambling that a player will pan out is the name of the game when it comes to transfers. If things come good, you're a genius and if the player flops, you're an idiot. But there's a very fine line between the two. Look at our recent transfers for proof:

Campana -- everyone excited. Has to be talented because he captained Spain's Under-21 team. Seemingly low risk punt. Total failure.

McArthur -- not cheap, but lower division player we welcomed but none of us really expected a superstar. Brilliant signing.

Bamford -- can't miss prospect, Chelsea player, tore it up in the Championship, everyone over the moon we signed him and nobody questioned Pardew's judgment brining him in. Disaster.

Bolasie -- was anyone really excited when we signed him? Most wanted Adomah. Arguably best signing of all time.

Transfer market is just one giant punt. You can't avoid it.

 


Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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Casual Flag Orpington 09 Jan 16 10.25am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 09 Jan 2016 10.05am

Quote AdelaideEagle at 08 Jan 2016 9.19pm

It's always easy to be daring and bold when it's not your money your punting with. I wouldn't be betting half my transfer budget on a punt, nor would I be brash and risk my employers funds on a whim, not without the risk of being sacked. Regardless of our current financial position, there is a responsibility here to invest that sort of money on proven talent.

The thing is, the people responsible for the signing don't think they are taking a punt. They believe they're smart enough to identify a talent before anyone else has caught on. That's what leads to pretty much all transfers and to some extent, the board has to back their manager's judgment. In reality, how many "finished articles" are there out there? Giroud...Aguero...Costa...Kane...Lukaku...a few others all guaranteed to score you 20 goals a season. But we're not going to sign any of them. Even Man Utd. (Martial) are now reduced to taking punts.

The reality is that gambling that a player will pan out is the name of the game when it comes to transfers. If things come good, you're a genius and if the player flops, you're an idiot. But there's a very fine line between the two. Look at our recent transfers for proof:

Campana -- everyone excited. Has to be talented because he captained Spain's Under-21 team. Seemingly low risk punt. Total failure.

McArthur -- not cheap, but lower division player we welcomed but none of us really expected a superstar. Brilliant signing.

Bamford -- can't miss prospect, Chelsea player, tore it up in the Championship, everyone over the moon we signed him and nobody questioned Pardew's judgment brining him in. Disaster.

Bolasie -- was anyone really excited when we signed him? Most wanted Adomah. Arguably best signing of all time.

Transfer market is just one giant punt. You can't avoid it.

Kane's had 1 1/2 good seasons and is the 'finished article'. I agree he the finished article, excellent striker.
Austin had an equally good season last year, in a relegated side. Has scored when fit this season in a stop start ( injury hit season) yet no one in football wants to pay 12 million for him. There's obviously a problem with him , but what is it?

 

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Griffish Flag Croydon 09 Jan 16 12.59pm Send a Private Message to Griffish Add Griffish as a friend

Kane's had 1 1/2 good seasons and is the 'finished article'. I agree he the finished article, excellent striker.
Austin had an equally good season last year, in a relegated side. Has scored when fit this season in a stop start ( injury hit season) yet no one in football wants to pay 12 million for him. There's obviously a problem with him , but what is it?

I think the figure was £15m last summer and teams were put off because they may be able to get him for free this summer when his contract runs out.

Saying that though I was a bit surprised when Pardew completely ruled out the move altogether the other day as I think Austin would score goals for us like he did at QPR, and a free transfer in the summer would surely be great business?

 

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The eagle's Flag 09 Jan 16 9.18pm Send a Private Message to The eagle's Add The eagle's as a friend

According to SSN slimini hasn't got a buy out clause in his contract so why pay we million for him

 

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Petereagle Flag Brockley 10 Jan 16 1.13am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Quote The eagle's at 09 Jan 2016 9.18pm

According to SSN slimini hasn't got a buy out clause in his contract so why pay we million for him


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Hopefully there is a buy out clause

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 10 Jan 16 2.12am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Quote sydtheeagle at 09 Jan 2016 10.05am

Quote AdelaideEagle at 08 Jan 2016 9.19pm

It's always easy to be daring and bold when it's not your money your punting with. I wouldn't be betting half my transfer budget on a punt, nor would I be brash and risk my employers funds on a whim, not without the risk of being sacked. Regardless of our current financial position, there is a responsibility here to invest that sort of money on proven talent.

The thing is, the people responsible for the signing don't think they are taking a punt. They believe they're smart enough to identify a talent before anyone else has caught on. That's what leads to pretty much all transfers and to some extent, the board has to back their manager's judgment. In reality, how many "finished articles" are there out there? Giroud...Aguero...Costa...Kane...Lukaku...a few others all guaranteed to score you 20 goals a season. But we're not going to sign any of them. Even Man Utd. (Martial) are now reduced to taking punts.

The reality is that gambling that a player will pan out is the name of the game when it comes to transfers. If things come good, you're a genius and if the player flops, you're an idiot. But there's a very fine line between the two. Look at our recent transfers for proof:

Campana -- everyone excited. Has to be talented because he captained Spain's Under-21 team. Seemingly low risk punt. Total failure.

McArthur -- not cheap, but lower division player we welcomed but none of us really expected a superstar. Brilliant signing.

Bamford -- can't miss prospect, Chelsea player, tore it up in the Championship, everyone over the moon we signed him and nobody questioned Pardew's judgment brining him in. Disaster.

Bolasie -- was anyone really excited when we signed him? Most wanted Adomah. Arguably best signing of all time.

Transfer market is just one giant punt. You can't avoid it.


that was so good to read.

I just cum

 

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matthau Flag South Croydon 10 Jan 16 2.17am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Quote Casual at 09 Jan 2016 10.25am

Quote sydtheeagle at 09 Jan 2016 10.05am

Quote AdelaideEagle at 08 Jan 2016 9.19pm

It's always easy to be daring and bold when it's not your money your punting with. I wouldn't be betting half my transfer budget on a punt, nor would I be brash and risk my employers funds on a whim, not without the risk of being sacked. Regardless of our current financial position, there is a responsibility here to invest that sort of money on proven talent.

The thing is, the people responsible for the signing don't think they are taking a punt. They believe they're smart enough to identify a talent before anyone else has caught on. That's what leads to pretty much all transfers and to some extent, the board has to back their manager's judgment. In reality, how many "finished articles" are there out there? Giroud...Aguero...Costa...Kane...Lukaku...a few others all guaranteed to score you 20 goals a season. But we're not going to sign any of them. Even Man Utd. (Martial) are now reduced to taking punts.

The reality is that gambling that a player will pan out is the name of the game when it comes to transfers. If things come good, you're a genius and if the player flops, you're an idiot. But there's a very fine line between the two. Look at our recent transfers for proof:

Campana -- everyone excited. Has to be talented because he captained Spain's Under-21 team. Seemingly low risk punt. Total failure.

McArthur -- not cheap, but lower division player we welcomed but none of us really expected a superstar. Brilliant signing.

Bamford -- can't miss prospect, Chelsea player, tore it up in the Championship, everyone over the moon we signed him and nobody questioned Pardew's judgment brining him in. Disaster.

Bolasie -- was anyone really excited when we signed him? Most wanted Adomah. Arguably best signing of all time.

Transfer market is just one giant punt. You can't avoid it.

Kane's had 1 1/2 good seasons and is the 'finished article'. I agree he the finished article, excellent striker.
Austin had an equally good season last year, in a relegated side. Has scored when fit this season in a stop start ( injury hit season) yet no one in football wants to pay 12 million for him. There's obviously a problem with him , but what is it?


he's not mobile and managers prob all want someone who can move these days.

can't remember him ever dribbling past anyone.

this league wants start to emulate the technique of the Spanish league. with all this mulla flying about it should. Austin is a poor man's alan shearer. a goog player. but can you really see him playing for arsenal or Liverpool?

I honestly do think he's a good premierhsip player. but lower premiership.

 

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Tyrelli Flag London 10 Jan 16 2.49am Send a Private Message to Tyrelli Add Tyrelli as a friend

6-12 Million for a Proven Prem Striker -Austin- who could and would do a Job but is injury prone, (to add to our other Injured Strikers) or Wait until the summer (assuming he doesnt get bought) to get him on a free ...

Or ..

15-22.5+ million for a Proven international Scorer 27 who isnt injury prone (assuming that point) and not known to Prem defenses like Austin is .. Would not attract the "glare" of the media clamoring over Austins every move on and off the pitch putting pressure on the Player ....

Also there is the "rule of Jan" where players always cost more due to Clubs "needing" a player to assist with injuries (or in our case) Injuries and to Push for a European Spot ..

Also is Austin Cup tied ?? another reason perhaps we are looking abroad for a New Striker ..

Edited by Tyrelli (10 Jan 2016 2.54am)

 

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