Yes

Syd I case you don't know how transfers work I will explain (if you do i apologise, I'm not trying to insult your intelligence)...

Pulis wouldav given a list of A B & C targets to parish/moody.

Unless your a big club you very rarely get your A signings so you have to wait for the others to come available, for instance, in the last window AJ was holloways B choice, at the last minute that fell thru so we got choice C in Jerome.

The markets not moving yet, unless you count Chelsea signing £21m matic but that doesn't help the British market as they have sold de bruyne abroad to conter the matic signing.

This is the same for most clubs in most windows...and unless I've missed something, parish hasn't said he won't spend, he's just said he won't mortgage the clubs future which are 2 different things alltogether.

P.S> Syd it's not very becoming to talk about yourself in the 3rd person...haha

Edited by braunstoneagle (18 Jan 2014 6.15pm)

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

I have a shrewd idea how transfers work. With regard to the above, I would note:

Shane Long to Hull
Nikita Jelavic to Hull
Mats Moeller Dahli to Cardiff
Magnus Wolf Eikrem to Cardiff
Grant Holt to Aston Villa
John Guedetti to Stoke
Jonas Guttierez to Norwich

So that's a total of seven players...the majority of them forwards/attackers/goalscorers signed up by five of our immediate rivals in a window which you think "hasn't yet got moving." About the only team it "hasn't got moving" for yet is Palace so I beg to differ. I am not saying I would have wanted all of those players at Palace (though most of us would have wanted at least a couple of them) but much as I agreed with some of your points earlier, you are wildly wrong on this one.

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

It doesn't matter whether they are loans or not. The market is a market for players moving clubs, and seven players doing so is evidence that the market is moving, loan or permanent deals. You didn't specify, in your original post, that your comment was limited to one or the other type of deal. The bottom line is that all of those clubs involved have improved their chances of avoiding relegation; the type of deal is immaterial.

Your opinion -- and/or mine -- of the quality of the players involved is also immaterial. As long as they are players the buying manager thinks can improve his chances, that is all that counts. If Pulis wants a certain player, I wouldn't expect him to change his mind because Braunie or Syd had a different opinion.

Jelavic and Long are overpriced? Really? Surely price is simply a case of what someone is willing to pay. Yes, if there's a scarcity (in this case of strikers) the price goes up, but it still represents what you have to pay to get one. The debate is really whether it's worth it and only time will tell. If Hull stay up, I think they would argue it will have been. (By the way, as I said, personally I was not unhappy to miss out on both.)

Sydenham by birth. Selhurst by the Grace of God.

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its ballpark obviously but here you go...

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway

syd you know what i meant when i said the market hasnt "properly" starting moving yet...like i also said tho, its probably simply a case of our targets are not able to be freed by their clubs just yet!

in hindsight john guedetti to stoke may well free up one of their strikers for a move...maybe kenywne jones? incidentially on him theres quite an interesting article here... [Link]

and yes... i think every single palace supporter would be over the moon with zaha back on loan!

‘Football isn’t instant coffee. You have to work at it. You must grow the bean, grind it.’ Ian Holloway