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nickgusset  Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 11.51am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State. ADOLF HITLER 1931. Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary. Your (no doubt typed from memory quote) highlights this. Why don't you think people should want to stop fascists? Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 11.53am)
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 Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 11.51am |
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As the saying goes....the fascists of the future will call themselves anti fascists. Attributed to Churchill but I can't find that...probably anon.
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 11.54am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I wonder what some posters would think of the 4,000 British nationals that fought Franco. The ethos of intolerance should be matched with similar force that they wish to apply. So in the States the 1st and 2nd Amendments etc do not just apply to the minority of racists and fascists in the US. Some on here would cream their pants at the sight of a black group "bearing arms".
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Bulls*** excuse. There is no real far right problem here. What far right marches do we have here? People like you stir up more trouble than anything else. Our security services...well, our politicians are keen to over empathize the far right in the country and absurdly equate it to the massively more significant Islamism problem......when in comparison the lack of progress on Islamism will only increase the other. In the US there is are real differences in the culture that paint a different picture. The far right in the US will become a larger problem.....but groups like antifa will only increase their size more quickly. It's a joke thinking physically fighting extremists works....that's how Hitler rose. It's not just about marches Stirling.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 11.55am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary. Your (no doubt typed from memory quote) highlights this. Why don't you think people should want to stop fascists? Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 11.53am) You know he is wearing a Dirndl as he types that.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 11.56am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary. Why don't you think people should want to stop fascists? The ends do not justify the means because the ends are never met. You don't 'defeat' concepts in a democracy. You have different groups and you argue your position.....The most popular ideas will succeed in the marketplace of ideas. Unless society has broken down....that's how we do it. You lock up or if you can deport the mostly men of violence who believe that force should be used to achieve political dominance.
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| Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 12.01pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
It's not just about marches Stirling. Quite happy to talk about the far right. It has its place in the discussion. Why aren't you talking about the far larger security problems? Far right groups aren't significant here. We don't have a massive security budget focused on fascism.....you are just absurdly biased in your emphasis. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2017 12.01pm)
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| hedgehog50 Croydon 17 Oct 17 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Yes defeat fascism by any means necessary. Your (no doubt typed from memory quote) highlights this. Why don't you think people should want to stop fascists? Edited by nickgusset (17 Oct 2017 11.53am) Surely you regard the majority of people in the country as fascists. How you going to 'defeat' them all - what do you mean by 'defeat' exactly? Do you have a final solution?
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 17 Oct 17 12.57pm |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Surely you regard the majority of people in the country as fascists. How you going to 'defeat' them all - what do you mean by 'defeat' exactly? Do you have a final solution? Nice.
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 17 Oct 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Nice. He knows what he is saying and he is disgusting. I note the Fascists have totally ignored my point on fighting Franco but you know in the 1930s which side they would have been on.
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Jimenez  SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 17 Oct 17 1.18pm |
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Malta another EU success story 'Mafia State'
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| Stirlingsays 17 Oct 17 1.19pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
He knows what he is saying and he is disgusting. I note the Fascists have totally ignored my point on fighting Franco but you know in the 1930s which side they would have been on. A war between fascists and communists? The soviets backed the communists and Hitler and Mussolini backed the fascists. I would have stayed out of it and moved. I'm a democrat. That said, I've read that most democrats who were there fought on the communists side....Orwell did...though he quickly became disillusioned with the communists...So if I were forced to pick a side I would have fought for them rather than Franco. Edited by Stirlingsays (17 Oct 2017 1.36pm)
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